PKI 2009

WTN: What? Get a CF park to stop playing 80s music? Are you serious? :)

I have a hard time believing that they would build the lift hill/first drop AND the finale turnaround directly over the Rivertown midway. Just think of how awful that will look.

Say goodbye to any and all Rivertown ambience.

*** Edited 11/19/2007 2:10:21 PM UTC by Pagoda Gift Shop***

^If done right it could add to the ambiance, I think. A nice rustic station, brown/rust color track and supports, maybe some new trees and water features in the queue like the old Beast queue. I think it's certainly doable, it's just a matter of will.

Millennium Force goes right through Frontier Trail. Besides, if it's a B&M, look how few supports are on Behemoth. It's impact at ground level could be minimal if trees are left in the area.

I don't have high hopes for KI improving the ambiance. Their track record isn't the best out there.

I think these "little spaces in the layout" that people are talking about are actually just smeared ink on the page it was printed on.

I have a hard time believing they'll build directly on top of the pond (lake?) like that.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Well, over at KICentral, they seem to believe it will be built and I get the feeling they believe Screamscape knows what they are talking about (roll eyes). And, how they are correct most of the time.

I said Screamscape is full of it, but they seem to take it nearly as the gospel of coasterdom.

I say wait until the official announcement. I like speculating too, but I wouldn't take Screamscape's word for considering how horrible their track record is.

Looking at some of the other B&M hypers from satellites, the layout for KI seems to be a bit too large scale. It's pretty massive compared to any other hyper.

How does it seem to massive? It isnt massive when it is 5,000 and 225 feet long. Look at these that are either taller or longer.

Raging Bull is longer

http://www.rcdb.com/id535.htm

Nitro is alot longer

http://www.rcdb.com/id1106.htm

http://cache.rcdb.com/pictures/picmax/p7969.jpg

Behemoth is taller and longer

http://www.rcdb.com/id4005.htm

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Coasterbuzzer said:
I say wait until the official announcement. I like speculating too, but I wouldn't take Screamscape's word for considering how horrible their track record is.

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The source isn't Screamscape.

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Cedar "Counter" Point said:
Iron BeastHawk

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Where are you guys getting these silly names from? We all know it's going to be announced as

Son of King Cobra: Revenge of the Mega Coaster.

"Fly at the Speed of Poisonous Airtime."

Duh.

Bat's Revenge

Big Daddy

Scooby Doo's Scenic Railway

MEGA thrust

Overall, I like the location, even if the lake suffers from it.

Now Maybe Enthusiasts Will Shut Up About Us Needing A Coaster Like This: The Ride

;) I kid because I love.

The park will still need a "real" invert once they build the hyper. ;)

B&M? How about "Scooby Doo's Floater Coaster".... :)

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Coasterkid200 said:
How does it seem to massive? It isnt massive when it is 5,000 and 225 feet long.

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That's a pretty jaded point of view.

Here's a list of all the coasters on RCDB listed by length.

Of 4099 coasters listed on 38 are longer than 5000 feet. That's less than 1% of roller coasters ever built. I'd say that makes it pretty massive in comparison. (and that includes 2 new for 2008 coasters as well)

If you break it down to just the USA, there's only 20 coasters that long. (top 1% again) Break it down to just steelies in the USA and there's only 13 that long. (top 1% again)

As far as length goes it puts it among the top 1% longest coasters ever built. I'd call that massive.

But in case you're not convinced, what about height?

Only 15 coasters have been 225 or higher...ever. (again, that includes the not-yet-built Behemoth)

I won't even bother breaking that down further.

I'd say a coaster among the top 1% in both length and height could easily be considered 'massive'

^To be any more "massive" would be disrespectful... ;)

Sorry... :)

Ha! Exactly. :)

^^^ Gonch, that top 1% is mostly hypercoasters... so in the realm of hypercoasters, this one isn't massive.