More than launch, top-hat and breaks.

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Hey man, it works!!! Give it a shot! ...and about this new ride at CP? It may not make the park a destination (it already is...), but it adds another element that will attract folks, and CP may be a fun, clean place, but business is business.

Rob-looking forward to meeting Jeff, et al, in person, skirting the enthusiast crowd (which I am occasionally a part of), and having a great time laughing at/with somebody with a much more dangerous sense of humor than I. ;)
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We dont care about your opinions Outkast........

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And with such an insightful post, Blink3020, I think it's a safe bet that most people here don't care about yours either.

I went through this entire thread and he stated his opinion. In none of them did he slam anyone for their views, so why do you find it necessary to slam him for his?

Think of it this way Blink, if he's not interested in riding it, that makes one less person in the lines for those who DO want to ride it.

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Born and raised in Ohio but currently lives in Castiac California one exit north of Magic Mountain.....Personally, for me I'm looking forward to this ride more than I was for MF...I may be a minority on this but I think this ride will have the best one, two punch of any coaster in the industry...

Jeff said:

Most people who have stood at the base of this thing and looked up at this point probably don't care what it does, because something that tall is going to get your attention and thrill you. I mean, drop rides just go up and down, and I don't see anyone complaining about them.

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It's pretty obvious to me that this is a reverse layout of Xcelerator. Notice the pull out supports and the brake run to the left of that.

I have been looking at the pics for a few weeks just like everybody else, but something hit me today. I dont know if anybody eles has said this yet, but dosen't the supports and track that is up look like Mr Freeze? I know that premier made freeze, but its just a thought .


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Nope. Breakrun is already in. Its a short ride, but probably will attract me to CP next year.

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Jeff said:

Charles Nungester said:

Parks like CP...I feel only the want or need to visit every few years.


That's because you're not part of the "in" crowd at CP. It was never about the rides for us.

Not picking on you today, Chuck, just noting that real Pointers enjoy the rides, but are in it for the good times with friends.

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I hear ya. I can't because I'm on the west coast and getting there is a bit pricy, so I have Knott's instead.

The picture below clearly shows that the far left tracks are the brake run. You can already see that the track trasition is below the level supports on the far left. There is more to this coaster.

http://www.virtualmidway.com/mystery/attraction400.jpg

If not, CP has wasted their money. They can do so much more with this. Record height or not, at least Xcelerator has a couple of turns.

*** This post was edited by Snoopy on 10/24/2002. ***

Jeff, I was using that as an example, dude! Maybe I should have said Roadrunner Express or Big Dipper or Goliath Jr. or Sea Dragon or something. I was talking about Parks A and B in general, which could have been any parks. B could have been Disney's California Adventure, etc. and A could have been Knoebel's, etc. You read it all, right?

It was about enthusiasts having fun or not. Slow down turbo! :)

Danny

*** This post was edited by Koaster King on 10/24/2002. ***


PLayerPunk said:
Stop now with the Drop Ride stuff before that becomes a new theory.

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There you have it. What the ride really is: There is no launch area. 4 people will fit in a box on wheels which will be hoisted up the 420' tower by 3 mountain goats, and once they reach the apex, the main goat will push the box over. There will be no brake run...the box will hit the end of the track, much like a ski-jump and splash in the lagoon just short of Iron Dragon's "misty lair" :)

(P.S. at work & bored)

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Jeff said:

Charles Nungester said:

Parks like CP...I feel only the want or need to visit every few years.


That's because you're not part of the "in" crowd at CP. It was never about the rides for us.

Not picking on you today, Chuck, just noting that real Pointers enjoy the rides, but are in it for the good times with friends.



Just adding to that, the whole point of enthusiast events, the PPP's, SRM's, you name it, is to have fun. Sure, you get ERT, short waits, but just check out Robb and Elissa's PPP pictures... Thats the point of it all right there.

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Snoopy said:

If not, CP has wasted their money. They can do so much more with this. Record height or not, at least Xcelerator has a couple of turns.



Yeah, a 420 ft. coaster is a real waste! Many of the people that have ridden Xcelerator claim that the time spent in the overbanks is time spent thinking about how cool the launch and tophat were. They really don't add much to the ride, thrill-wise. The launch and tophat will be worth the price tag, let alone the twistage on the drop side.

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Not all true. The launch shocks you, the top hat put's a twist in your gut and the turns are all about flying at high speed. Short yes, but coming of a 400 foot hill you can do a lot more. Giant loop, Bunny Hop, Overbank, anything. Just not all that thrilled about this anymore. They could have waited a year and spent twice as much on a longer ride. Sorry, just a firm believer in doing something right the first time. Break the record, yes. Someone will copy with a better version, certainly. Spend the max you can on it and no one copies it, they go for a shorter version. Do I want to ride it, of course. I just think CP missed an opportunity for something special. There just isn't anything special about a top hat. It's been done. This ones just taller and faster. This will be sure to add to the stupid debate of "is a launched coaster a coaster???"

Koaster King said:

This L-TH-B theory isn't very amusing to say the least even with the height unless I'm seeing that ground straight down below!! =^D

Trust me, after the launch, you won't see anything on the way down unless you have some special type of eyeballs. You don't see much on Xcelerator until you slow down, your eye's water and it's over. Think about it. How much do you see on MF's first drop? Not much once it gets rolling. This will be even less.

*** This post was edited by Snoopy on 10/25/2002. ***

I actually saw quite a lot on Millie's first drop. In fact, I distinctly recall thinking "Wow, we've been dropping for a long time now". Millie's drop definitely felt longer to me, giving the opportunity to look at the shore quickly rushing up to meet me :).
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--who, while not salivating over 'Dragster', suddenly wants to go to CP next year

Blah, Blah, Blah. My friends will tell you that for the past few days, I have been very critical of the concept of a layout of the L-TH-B. However, having been going to CP for fifteen years now, I can honestly say the park has never installed a ride that I found disappointing.

I am bummed that Schwabinchen, (German for lady with volumptous puppies) will be removed, but I understand the need of growing pains, and if it makes the park better I am all for it.

I think we all need to ride the damn thing before we make a judgement on the actual ride. If it's "just" a L-TH-B with a launch of 120, twists going up and down and then the "smooth" magnetic brake run, I think it's going to be a blast, but one scary a$$ ride.

On the scary ride part, I'm not totally convinced that people will ride this monster. Will it bring a record-number of people into the park? I believe it will. Will those people ride this thing? I'm not sure. 400 feet is tall, no matter how you look at it. Add the launch speed, and I think it's gonna be one intense, yet fun ride!

-Mikey

I for one can see both sides to the argument...either way I'm blissed about this new ride and I'll be knuckling up to it when it opens.

CP has, in recent history (last 25 years or so), has been a trailblazer when it comes to the quality of rides that it chooses to purchase for the park. If the ride is more than L-TH-B, then that would fit right in nicely with what they have done in the past. Soon they will have three contemporary Intamin coasters, one that is extremely long, i.e. MF, a mulitple-launch coaster, i.e. WT, and now this rocket coaster....three totally different flavors. So it's not as if you can't sample all of that in one days time at the park. I mean, KBF only has the one Intamin attraction to get their thrill on. My advice is try to appreciate - don't hate it when construction has just begun and we're without an official announcement, that's silly. You KNOW it will kick arse! A little trust people - you can do it.

If it is L-TH-B, then at this point we'll have to go on confidence that it will be more exciting than the simplicity of that theory...just because it's CP and they have a hard time dissapointing peeps like me.

That one picture that Snoopy posted, looks like it will be more than a L-TH-B, the brake run doesnt line up.

NITROman said:
That one picture that Snoopy posted, looks like it will be more than a L-TH-B, the brake run doesnt line up.


I took a good look at it on my machine at work which has a very high res image. If the track transitions from box track to flat regular track, then it would line up. The brake runn is not box track type. They did this to defray the cost of fin replacement. They just order a new section of track as it ages. No doubt it will be a bustin ride, just wish there was more to it.

Snoopy, I'm talking about the ride completely inverting at the top where you're hanging watching the ground below you. Now that is extremely freaky to me! The closest park I can think of with that kind of coaster experience is at least 10 hours away. Raptor and Mantis are still incredibly popular, so I don't think guests are having problems going upside down. Maybe I'll wear some prescription goggles. ;)

I've never had a problem taking in the surroundings on MF anyways, but it would be one bad inverted coaster! Seeing the world upside down at that height would be quite a thrill. :)

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