Maverick

Your all wrong! its a next generation intamin launched coaster. seen at iappa, this looping coaster offers a different perspective for riders as the trains are fitted with "lay-down" style seats that hang on both sides of the actual train. reaching speeds of up to 60 mph, the ride will weeve in and out of trees and wizz over water.

Which is what Port Aventura is getting in 2007 ;)

Even though MS and Gemini are so far apart, I have seen the same guest confusion firsthand. I have seen grown adults following MS track layout with their finger and skipping all the way over to Gemini, while standing near the entrance to CCMR. Funny stuff.

...Not far enough apart...lol.

I still say Dive Machine. After looking at pictures of Sheikra, I think this would be an awesome coaster for the Point.

What could they do with the floorless design that hasn't already been done? The floorless concept I think has pretty much run its course. *** Edited 2/14/2006 7:44:15 AM UTC by Scream Machine***

mike.s. ;)MIGHT;) be onto something...

Ugh, it's not a dive machine. Let it go.

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yeah i dont think cedar point will be doing any business with b&m anytime soon. not because of a bad relationship just because cedar fair feels it doesn't need another b&m right now. I think in 2007, cedar fair will be comfortable with the title maverick to suit an intamin. one thing is for sure we have already mentioned what this maverick is going to be in these very forums in threads that focused on the future of cedar point. vague yes but im not going to plug the answer, id rather play with ya'll first!

Mike,

I like your closing "plug the answer and play with ya'll" Clever - but doubtfull imo. Too much wood clustered together, along with the fact, who would ride MS if Maverick was wood right next to it? I think reworking MS with plug n play track makes economic sense.

I don't understand "screams" logic, the elements of all coasters are the same, they go "up and down". A dive machine would appeal to the family if it had water elements, so maybe Maverick is a dive machine. However I still think it's going to be a floorless since CP has one sit down looper and certainly could use another one, especially if it's a world record breaker.

A 4D would certainly rock, but I suspect after TTD and WT, a 4D is more likely after Maverick.

Fun to speculate, time will tell.

Tom

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because cedar fair feels it doesn't need another b&m right now

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Where are you getting this idea from?

It could be anything, none of you know unless you are part of the planning or have some inside knowledge, and I not talking about the Doughnut Time manager.

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Thom25 said:
Mike,

I think reworking MS with plug n play track makes economic sense.

Tom

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Why not just get rid of it and get something better?

People seem to be right though, MS is probably staying and we're getting something else. I wouldn't put it past CP to totally rework that area, look at how much the WT area has changed since the addition of MF: The Giant Wheel, Troika, Chaos, WT, MaxAir, and new games. I worked on MaxAir and WT for a week, that area is hopping now. That's been 6 years since MF's addition...maybe SkyHawk is the start of a new cycle.

I doubt that MS is going anywhere, at least next season. They would have had a whole "last ride" ceremony and all for it. But I think we'll all be happy as long as whatever they choose is more reliable that TTD. ;)

a record breaking woodie does not necessarily have to be the tallest or longest. There are other records. Steepest, most lift hills, most cross overs, longest tunnel, most tunnels, steepest banking.

It's funny that some just want to complain about big woodies yet there is quite the anticpation for Voyage and El Toro. *** Edited 2/14/2006 5:11:10 PM UTC by larrygator***

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Impulse-ive said:- 4-D is an interesting thought, but they already tried twice to depart from tried-and-true technology (WT and TTD) and got burned both times ... once severely (TTD). I doubt you'll see this one from a fool-me-twice-shame-on-me perspective and the fact that the Arrow version, while probably different from the B&M version, has horrid
capacity (although that's more due to maintenance issues than true capacity issues). I also just think it's a little too wild for the current park climate. Everyone's going for the family buck, and I think whatever's going in is going to be a little tamer

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B&M has a 4th Dimension design? I know Intamin has a model similar to the 4D, but B&M's is new to me.

Speaking of the new Intamin launcher, anyone have any information concerning this prototype?

Assuming that the reports are true that MS's problems are structural and not trackwork-related, how is changing the track bed going to help?

IMO, "fixing" MS would require MASSIVE amounts of changes to the structure and even considerable tweaking of the layout (the second half is one long, slow, decline).

Oh, and add me to the list of people that think a GIANT wooden coaster needn't be a bad ride...although I *wood* follow HW's lead - any *record-breaking* wooden coaster should be an O-n-B in terms of layout, lest ye repeat the SOB experience...

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larrygator said:
It's funny that some just want to complain about big woodies yet there is quite the anticpation for Voyage and El Toro.

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It is very funny. El Toro I am not so worried about as it seems the tech was created for bigger faster woodies, The Voyage I could see having issues down the road. Still riding them both this season!

Is there some real confirmation that CP is getting Maverick? It seems to me that we have seen most of the other CF parks get something over the last 4 years...except MIA.

Nothing official, as there hasn't been a press release (and won't be one for quite a while). But with that said, you should be able to take it as fact. There's really nothing to make us think otherwise.

Yeah, why take out WWL just for the hell of it? Any coaster being built at a CF park next year is SO obviously going to be built at Cedar Point.

But that doesn't mean CP could be the only CF park to get a coaster. It seems past patterns have shown that about 2 coasters are built each year at CF parks. But I don't even really take that into consideration...it's whenever each individual park is ready for their next coaster. Likely candidates? I'm gonna go with VF, CP, either MIA or GL, and a chance at DP. I'm still unsure about MIA...it all depends on how much other stuff CF wants to put into the park before a coaster. And since they had the water problems for so long it might be pushed back for another season or two. I'm also unsure about GL for the same reason...not really sure where CF thinks GL stands with them (though I'm sure a brand new 20 some million dollar waterpark is a good start!)

Of course another park could get some sort of addition next year. In fact, it's most likely.

But you can bet any *major* coaster addition is headed to one park and one park only. ;)

Yes, I agree that WWL may have come out for a new addition. It may also have come out for some other reason...such as issues with the structure itself, maintenance woes...whatever. I suppose it's still anyones guess at this point.

In regards to CP's and Kinzel's relationship with Intamin, my two cents...sometimes when a capital equipment manufacturer has issues with a new product, and the first install of that product has all sorts of problems (like TTD at CP), the manufacturer may come back with another special offer to compensate for the problems with the original product. Being that we are unaware of any lawsuit between CP and Intamin, this is a definite possibility. In another words, this lends itself to the thought that a plug-n-play woodie may be going in....