Lots of new attractions at Cedar Fair parks next year...HMMMMM.

SnoopyDoo said:

CF will let MA exist in its current state until it falters. Then it will re-examine its business model, and likely invest capital to maintain attendance and profitability.

Fixed that for you.

Same basic idea minus the paranoia.

SnoopyDoo said:

Disney and Universal have expanded to run park locations globally, but they never have opened any that directly compete with each others patrons.

Oh weird... none of the Cedar Fair parks compete either. Even when Geauga Lake was open, it didn't compete with Cedar Point, or even SeaWorld across the lake. In an even greater bit of irony, GL needed SeaWorld to exist.

Well technically both DIsney and Universal have opened parks that compete with each other on their own property. :)

I hadn't logged in to CoasterBuzz in a while, and figured I'd pop in to see what was what.

Flying Turns! Knew I'd be able to find a decent write up here.

Interesting rumblings going on at BGW and...

Oh.

This again?

*sigh*

Please don't modify my posts to conform to your idealistic views of the world.
The Irish Hills project in Michigan are further proof that Sandusky is the golden child location.
Irish Hills was to be a Detroiter's Cedar Point, that many said was not followed through on because of the gas prices/shortages of the 70's and the land was only recently sold off.
But of course many of you bloggers likely believe that the gas issues of that time weren't a conspiracy as well!

Ah. Everything is a conspiracy.

But how do we know you're not involved in a conspiracy to make us think there's a conspiracy?

Is a cartel a conspiracy? Of sorts, yes...but I wouldn't get carried away.

None of my comments are a fantasy. I have been following the park in the local media for years. When Cedar Fair purchased the park, they made the announcement that they would continue with the original owners long term plans, and one of those plans was a hyper coaster, which they decided not to build. Other items on the list was a racing coaster, and the dive coaster, which was mentioned in an article in the Grand Rapids Press, and the news paper out of Muskegon. The dive coaster was said to be in the parks 5 year plans, when they built Grand Rapids. Still no dive coaster.

As for the competition. Go to the Cedar Fair website, and to investor relations. It lists all the parks in competition with Michigan's Adventure, along with it's potential customer base. Which at last read, was a potential 5 million.

Most of you do not live in Michigan. I'm originally from Grand Rapids, and have been going to the park since the 1970's. I actually knew they were going to get the Mad Mouse coaster before it was built. I was also there in the off season taking pictures of the construction of Shivering Timbers, and Funnel of Fear, when it was just a metal cage. The only ride that Cedar Fair completed in the parks long term plans was be bop boulevard. Which was actually under construction before Cedar Fair bought the park.

Here is a paranoid link for your entertainment. If it works.

http://www.ultimaterollercoaster.com/news/april99/stories/041399_02.shtml

Just a bit of news about the Jourden's 7 million dollar hyper coaster that's all in my head.

Just checked the link, it did not work. However, you can check out the websites Past news archive. News from April 1999. Article headline.

Michigan's Adventure Plans One More Coaster.

I was born and raised in Michigan. I lived in Grand Rapids for 12 years. While I now live in Chicago, I go back to Michigan frequently. My first visit to Michigan's Adventure was when it was called Deer Park Funland, and once you'd petted the deer and rode the train, you'd done everything there was to do at the park. I'm not sure what where one lives or lived has to do with having an opinion on an amusement park, but figured I'd toss that out there.

When Cedar Fair purchased the park, they made the announcement that they would continue with the original owners long term plans, and one of those plans was a hyper coaster, which they decided not to build.

Let me point out the operative phrase: which they decided not to build. When a company buys another company, regardless of industry, I take the acquiring company's announced plans for its acquisition with a grain of salt. Having acquired Michigan's Adventure, Cedar Fair got to change the park's five year plan. And so it did.

As for the competition. Go to the Cedar Fair website...it lists all the parks in competition with Michigan's Adventure, along with its potential customer base. Which at last read, was a potential 5 million.

And? Not only has Cedar Fair checked out its own website, it no doubt has been checking out the financial numbers, customer surveys, analyses of tourism traffic, and so on, and so on, and so on. Cedar Fair doesn't have to get its information from the Grand Rapids Press or the Muskegon Chronicle or the Holland Sentinel.

Cedar Fair is a business. If the company thought that building Michigan's Adventure up into a larger, destination resort would be profitable, they would do so. It would mean more profit for the company.

Hey Slithernoggin:

I only suggested that people check out the information, because they treat me like everything I say or post is just paranoid rambling, and I am making everything up. I am merely backing up what I am saying based on some facts.

All they had to do is check. Also, the comment about them deciding not to build the hyper coaster, was a comment based on what they told the press, and the GP when they purchased the park. That they were committed in doing so, and then they didn't do it. Nor did they do any of the other things that the Jourden's had planned.

They come across as all talk and no action. That's what disappoints me.

Also, there was a lot to do at Deer Park funland. As the park was Deer Park up until 1988 when the name was changed to Michigan's Adventure after The Wildcat was built. They had a really good antique car ride called "Muttley's Putt Putts. They also had bumper cars, and the Spider ride. The Log Ride, Corkscrew, and other rides were built prior to 1988. So, there was a lot to do. The park also had a musical review which was performed on a stage over by the Wildcat Grille, and they also had a Circus. And, at one point, a water ski show performed in the parks lagoon.

It was also a nice shady park, before they turned it into a field, by bull dozing about every tree in sight.

All of those things were built prior to 1988, but they were built after my first visit.

The link to URC is 404, and irrelevant anyway.

This constant assertion that a public company is finding ways to not make money for some ridiculously phantom directive to "protect" a part of the business is pretty stupid. I hope it's not representative of the public at large.

If it did, the stock market would reflect the loss in shareholder value.

Or Maverick.

It's probably representative of how most twelve-year-olds think that business works, but not grown-ups.

Let me make sure I understand:

Travis making fun of TimberRider = Acceptable

Anyone making fun of Travis = Totally unacceptable

Okay, got it.

Oh, Jesus, are you going to start feeling victimized too?

No, and I wasn't directing that at you or the mods here, I was making the comment towards Travis only. But I see how it kind of came across that way.

Edit: I just wanted to clarify, I wasn't commenting from the perspective of anything being allowed and that being unfair, I was commenting on the fact that it seems it's okay in Travis' mind to poke fun at someone that comes across as nutty to him, but nobody can poke fun at him for coming across as nutty.

I dug up that UltimateRollercoaster.com article and skimmed it. Holy crap, guys, you missed the biggest thing in the article!

In addition to the current proposed projects, the park is also working on plans for a campground and a 300-room hotel for the park's future.

If Michigan's Adventure could support a 300-room hotel, there would already BE a tent there...