KKK plans protest at Dollywood on unofficial gay day

Just wait until the KKK sees this picture:

http://freizeitparkweb.de/cgi-bin/dcf/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=5681&forum=DCForumID6

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"...you did have a segment that wore the same clothes so as to draw attention to themselves and were acting in a in your face manner with public displays of a sexual nature meant to draw attention to themselves."

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Huh... just like every hetero teenager ever born!

I guess it's like those black people who need attention by winning basketball shooting games and Jews with nice clothes that stop to pick up pennies on the midway. [/sarcasm]

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"...but lets not kid ourselves or be in denial, both groups are there with a agenda in mind."

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Yeah... all groups do. I know our agenda this weekend at SFGAm is to promote safe riding and more ERT for enthusiasts. Who's with me?!

It's all reflective of the backwards mindset of our culture.

Perhaps if society as a whole were not as subjective and scrutinizing about those that live an alternate lifestyle, then those who happen to be gay and living a conservative and "moral" lifestyle would me more apt to step forward. Thus breaking the terrible stereotype that protesters seem to dwell/capitalize on.

The fact is, we are all different... not one single person that ever walked the face of the earth has ever been completely identical. Even Sunday school classes teach songs about how God made us all different "Red and yellow, black and white" So any group that tries to force-fit everyone into a very narrow minded box simply contradicts the very unconditional love they are trying to profess.

It's really an embarassing double standard. I cannot imgaine God or Jesus walking today's earth scrutinizing who they will or will not associate with.

Heck, I'd love to have the chance to sit down with the big man upstairs and ask him a few questions regarding this. It sure would clear up a lot worry and stress that this issue churns in me.

Shaggy

I wonder if there were ever a constitutional ammendment banning gay marraige, how long it would be before atheist marraiges become illegal.

Hey shaggy, why talk to God personally when you have PLENTY of folks running around who can talk to God for you? ;)

So the Klueless Klutzes Klan can demonstrate their stupidity and hate, but two people of the same gender can't get married (in most states). Got it!

And on the marriage topic, IF the proposed admendment was truly based on biblical teachings, the proponents would actually have it worded as "between one man, one woman, one time each". But becuase a lot of churchgoers have been divorced and re-married, that'll never happen.

Shaggy, it would be a tremendous world to live in IF everyone really SHOWED that *unconditional love* you referred to....unfortunately, most of what I see around me is QUITE conditional.

God will love you IF you do (or don't do) as someone else says....what I really wanna know is who made THAT person a moral authority on ANYTHING...

Sorry mister, MY God loves me regardless...and *she* loves you TOO.....:)

Shaggy - here's how Jesus handled such cases. He spent time with "sinners," let them know he loved them despite their flaws, and despite the flak he took for it, and *then* he told them to straighten up. Notice that the love comes first.

Robocoaster - actually, the Bible says divorce is OK in one circumstance - if one spouse is being unfaithful. I take this to mean unfaithful to marriage vows, which then could include cases of abuse, neglect, etc/

I'd like to be serious for a moment and congratulate everyone on the civilness of this topic. Had this appeared on RRC it would have been a flame war by the second post.

Of course we won't all agree but it's nice to see people agree to disagree and leave it at that and respect people different from onesself - well, except those KKK people ;)

mOOSH

For the record... I'm not sure, but I believe that the average Klansman would support an amendment defining marriage as "between a man and an woman." However they would whole hartedly object to / protest / riot over that same amendment if it were to read "between a man and a woman who are not blood relatives"

("Gee sis... guess we's gonna hafta git a dee-vorce")

*** This post was edited by SLFAKE 5/19/2004 4:56:55 PM ***

Sorry, I didn't mean to generalize Den. I was referring to: What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Matthew 19:4-6 . As for interpretation of scripture, it's open to debate (as with all things biblical) http://www.biyn.org/divorce/divorce.html. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. Just that it's not simple. Please don't misunderstand me; I'm not trying to argumentative. I think your posts are articulate, intelligent, and compassionate. I wish more people had your integrity.

I for one don't understand how the marriage of any two people, gay or straight, somehow trivializes my marriage. Funny... I think I still love my wife just as much as I did before Rosie went to San Francisco.

I've always wondered why it is that those who oppose gay anything bring up sex first. As if being gay means you're having sex.

I have a question - and this is a honest, serious one.

What is the connection between coaster/park go'ers and strong religous beliefs?

Serioiusly. This thread shows many of you have strong convictions when it comes to religion and when I visit parks I see tons of "Pray Hard" or similar religous shirts on people (that I normally don't see people wearing in everyday life)

I'm not trying to take this any more off topic, but the thread is going in a way that it finally felt right to ask something I've been wondering for years.

My personal beliefs lie between atheist and agnostic - leaning more towards atheist (just for the record). I really don't want to get involved in this discussion because I have very strong beliefs and one you get me started I'm not EVER going to stop.

But basically, is there a reason for the connection between many park enthusiasts/fans and strong religous beliefs or is it coincedental or what?

How is any homosexual going to outdo Brittney Spears, J-Lo or Liz Taylor when it comes to trivializing marriage?

And let's not even bring up the Fox Network. *cringes*

-CO

^You forgot Anna Nicole Smith. But the other three ladies you mentioned are clearly female impersonators!

Lord Gonchar, I think people wear their religious shirts and such to parks and fairs and other venues because they think that in a way that they may be reaching out to people without really preaching to them. There will be a lot of people who see your shirt at a place like a park or a state fair or something like that.

Just for the record, there most likely won't be much confrontation like some are expecting. If it's anything like the Gay Days here in Cali where the right wing religious fanatics show up to protest, demonstrations of any sort are not allowed on park property. They usually hang out on the street near the parking entrance and spew their ignorance and hatred to passing park patrons and motorist. Since they're obviously there for attention, the best thing to do is just ignore them and go about having a fun day.

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Perhaps if society as a whole were not as subjective and scrutinizing about those that live an alternate lifestyle, then those who happen to be gay and living a conservative and "moral" lifestyle would me more apt to step forward. Thus breaking the terrible stereotype that protesters seem to dwell/capitalize on.

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Shaggy makes a great point. For those that feel us Gays have an agenda and shove our views in others faces, that is exactly how allot of us feel about the right wing religious fanatics in this country. If they would just practice what they preach, just live and let live instead of forcing their beliefs and agendas on everyone else, there would be absolutely no reason for us to have to fight and protest for the most basic civil rights that every other tax paying citizen in this country gets to enjoy.

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=16001alo

And remember, just because one group of people doesn't agree with something doesn't make it right. When our very own narrow minded president is amending the constitution to discriminate against his very own citizens, would any one of you do anything less if the tables were turned?

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=16523

*** This post was edited by jomo 5/19/2004 8:00:23 PM ***

Gay marriage should be allowed/required, can't the "Right" see that it will reduce the amount of sex amoung homosexuals the same way it does for heterosexuals?

Doesn't the bible state stoning as the punishment for adultery? Or was that just for the women? The amount of weed needed to punish the politicians alone is mind boggling.

Another reason why one might see lots of "Pray Hard" and similar T-shirts in amusement parks is that church youth groups tend to descend upon theme parks en masse. I suspect that the T-shirts are merely a form of self-identification. Imagine if one of them got caught behind an enthusiast wearing Gonchar's latest shirt...lol!!

What I don't get is that since gays are having so many roadblocks getting married, why not just invent a new institution? (Like marriage, but just named something different with "rules" tweaked to allow alternative lifestyles)

Just an idea, not sure if it would ever fly though)

*** This post was edited by RCT_MASTER 5/19/2004 8:23:30 PM ***

Why does every park have to have a Gay Day? IF not to push their agenda down the the throats of people who are opposed to their lifestyle. I take objection when everyone starts jumping down the throats of the KKK. I admit that they have done things wrong in the past and I am from Tennessee. Let's look at the other extremist organizations like the NAACP, black panthers just to name a few. I dare anyone to go down to Disney when they have Gay Days, you will see how the gays really act when gather in a large group. Just recently in Rhea County, the gays and lesbians claimed to be bringing close to 5,000 for the offical gay day in rhea. Guess what, only 150 showed up and got a city owned park to boot for the day.

You claim that everyone is backwards for thinking that we should be separate. That's bull****. I am 37 years old, served my country in the military and saw happens when you have different races in a single country. You get a country that is on the way down. I don't believe all that the KKK stand for but I do agree with some. If any other group can protest why not them. IT's a free country.

Jan, I read your post and laughed when you wanted to shout Nazi at the people protesting Gay Day at the San Diego Zoo. Maybe you are in favor of Nambla which advocates in raping young boys. There is a few extreme gay groups out there as well.