KK BIG breakdown?!?!?

Wish they would share their secret with the other parks...it's always been the most reliable of the 3! (And the only one I was able to ride!)

Its not possible to touch those brake fins unless the train gets missaligned, which I'm sure didn't happen.

There something thats holding the train in place where it is, it should have rolled back into the station. With the tarp on it, seems like it aint comin back into the station anytime soon, they are trying to keep the train from being damaged by the elements.

I think what happened is the catchcar shifted up for some reason when it deattached from the train due to the brake fins being up during launch (if that rumor is true of course, there is seriously something wrong with the PLC of the ride if that is the case). My guess is that the fins came up about 1/2 way through the launch slowing the train down a lot, and when it came off the brakes it was probably going about 20 mph and came back and hit the catchcar, grinding it to a halt.

If one of the wheel assemblies came off, I would think there would be damage to the rails above the launch area.

Of course its all speculation, but thats my best educated guess.

I don't see KK opening any time soon, unfortunately. Couldn't have come at a worse time.

Hard to believe that this flaw didn't present itself during testing....

Thankfully, most of my friends in the area have already gotten to ride...

Hopefully, it'll be up and running before the end of July...this is one ride that GAdv cannot afford to leave SBNO (unlike JJF, Chiller:Batman, Viper, Evolution, etc., from years past)...

From that post its sad to hear about the private event on the 11th. I'm sure whoever reserved that was certain that their company would be able to have KK. I dont plan on going to SF soon, but I do hope that they can get it up and running ASAP.

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Cloudstriff. said:
There something thats holding the train in place where it is, it should have rolled back into the station. With the tarp on it, seems like it aint comin back into the station anytime soon, they are trying to keep the train from being damaged by the elements.

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What elements...it's an outdoor and made of fiberglass. There's nothing to be damaged by the elements. Rain and heat doesn't hurt them.

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YEa but if they have to fix it and take apart the train there and its raining i would thing that they want to keep at least part of the train from not getting wet.

I doubt they covered the train to protect it from the elements. I'm not sure how the KK storage tracks are, but at CP the storage area is not covered and the trains are always exposed to the elements.

Most likely, there is some major damage to the train and they covered it to hide the damage from the public.

^What you said. It's to keep people like us from speculating and spreading rumors.

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Cloudstriff. said:

My guess is that the fins came up about 1/2 way through the launch slowing the train down a lot, and when it came off the brakes it was probably going about 20 mph and came back and hit the catchcar, grinding it to a halt.

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My understanding (from a post I made in another thread) was that the train won't engage the catch car on a rollback.

I had noticed that the catch car resets before the train clears the top hat and asked it if could ever get caught. Someone responded that the train would pass harmlessly over it on a rollback and can only engage it at the other end of the launch track.

Last Fri. (a week ago), they opened Medusa at 9:10 or so. Superman around 9:30 and Nitro around 9:40 for the season pass ERT.

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Intamin Fan said:
^What you said. It's to keep people like us from speculating and spreading rumors.

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Well, it's obviously working well... ;)

the picture at this site

http://www.gainsider.com/scripts/pictures/popup.php?albumID=219&imageID=991

shows some bent brake fins. I think the trains wheels or something probably broke or got off tracks and as it launched probably hit the brake fins and thats what caused the flying metal .

note jsut speculation on my part.

That picture certainly shows something out of sorts with many of the brake fins. One of them actually looks like it is missing but I haven't been able to zoom in with enough clarity to determine whether that is the case. It could be an optical illusion of some sorts but who knows. I highly doubt it derailed or came off the track though. Something with the catchcar or the cable maybe...But yeah, all speculation until SF makes some sort of announcement (yeah right).

Here is a thought, launch cable snaps and whips around wildly, as you would think it would under that kind of tention, and bends the crap out of some of the guides and other components under the track. As this stuff is getting mangled, which includes some of the brake fins, it jams up under the train. Now when the brakes come up, like they are supposed to, they to get jamed under the train because they are bent.

Just a thought

It would explain the loud noise, the metal chunks flying out the sides, and the fact that it hasn't rolled back into the station.

Only one problem... one of the pics in a previous post seems to show the cable still intact. *** Edited 6/10/2005 6:18:43 PM UTC by dragonoffrost***

Ok same sinario except it is a catch car prob. and it goes haywire and tears everything up? I know I am grasping at straws but you burst my bubble, I looked at pics again and saw the same as you did. :} *** Edited 6/10/2005 6:20:33 PM UTC by Grady***

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Peabody said:

I said it before, and I'll say it again....why do I have a feeling that SF bought another one of these..maybe even bigger, before this one opened?

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Your feeling on that gives me an even more sinking one ... to me, there's only one logical place it could go.

- Six Flags execs *do* care to some extent about records and all that as they feel it's the most marketable thing about their parks (which many times, considering the lack of customer service, etc., that's true).

- There's one park that used to rule the record books that hasn't for some time.

- this ride type is designed to go as high and as fast as possible for as "cheap" as possible.

- There's one market that Six Flags would love to absolutely dominate for years to come.

- There's one record that only about 3, maybe 4 parks would be even willing to come close to taking on. Two of those parks recently debuted coasters which took strides towards that mark.

If you haven't caught on to my line of thinking yet, I'll give you some clues, it rhymes with Tragic Fountain and the number has three digits and starts with a 5.

Maybe I'm way off base, but if your speculation is right Peabody, I don't see any other place it could lead to ... especially since Moosh's "sightings" at SFoG went all over the place, something the height rockets aren't designed to do.

Could the strata (or whatever we're going to call what I feel would be the conclusion of all this) coaster be the end of not only Intamin, but Six Flags? Who knows, but I think it's a distinct possibility.

I hate to constantly defend Intamin's obviously unreliable strata coaster design but I have to think that some day (who knows how far down the line) they'll get the design tweaked and perfected enough that it won't be such a questionable investment.

Impulsive: I hope I'm wrong, but for some strange reason...call it an inkling...I just wonder. I honestly know nothing, but others seem to be thinking along the same lines too. Others who would know better than I.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me, and a big disaster wouldn't either.

All these people were like "KK is fine...very reliable....no problems..." before it opened, and look where we are now. How couldn't a larger and even faster one (or heck, even a clone!) not have the same if not worse problems.

I don't wish doom or failure on any park...not even the ones I don't care for, but I REALLY hope the park you mentioned doesn't get an Intamin...and NOT for fanboy reasons.

What's that old saying? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.