KK BIG breakdown?!?!?

The train cannot reengage with the catch car because the pin is held in the train by an electromagnet. In the launch area track you will see two copper paddles. When the operator gives the clear to launch electricty flows through the paddles into the train and releases the pin. After the launch the pin is held on by the force of the launch on the train and catch car. At the end of the launch the pin slides out and goes back into the train. That is why the train cannot reengage unless there was a problem with the magnet. *** Edited 6/11/2005 11:49:17 PM UTC by CPFAN420***

Seriously, Kinzel and Spehn are probably trying to get all the information that they can on the failure to see if anything might apply to TTD.

from what i learned today it was a computer programming error that caused the mishap. Seems to be a costly one too screwed up the entire launch mechanism. supposidely 5 million to fix .

anyway The person also said that a different company programmed the computer , other than six flags or intamin.

Now i do not know if the same company programmed ttd if they did there could be a major problem.

SEVERAL companies worked on the control systems on TTD after Intamin's people didn't get it right the first time. There was one guy in particular (whose name I believe is John) who was spotted at the ride several times running it from a laptop computer.

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Jim Fisher said:
Seriously, Kinzel and Spehn are probably trying to get all the information that they can on the failure to see if anything might apply to TTD.

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Exactly, they'd better not "celebrate" too much until TTD goes a full season or two without anything significant going awry. Xcelerator and Storm Runner seem to have *improved* reliability, wonder if there isn't something that can be learned....and maybe even applied... ;)

TTD is doing much better this year than most people realize...

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Raging_Bull said:
TTD is doing much better this year than most people realize...

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ive gotten about 8rides on it this year and never had to wait for a dealy..i think its been open everyday. ive only seen it down about 3 times. knock on wood it looks like CP and Intamin will have it pretty close to 100% once the vacation season starts

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jar said:

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Raging_Bull said:
TTD is doing much better this year than most people realize...

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ive gotten about 8rides on it this year and never had to wait for a dealy..i think its been open everyday. ive only seen it down about 3 times. knock on wood it looks like CP and Intamin will have it pretty close to 100% once the vacation season starts

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Yep, I was at CP for 2.5 days in May and it never went down, I got 13 rides, 6 in the front. Ran perfectly.

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rollergator said:

... wonder if there isn't something that can be learned....and maybe even applied...

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Yea, don't build 400' + coasters from unreliable engineering companies ;)

I was at Cedar Point over the weekend, and I managed to get in six rides on TTD. I could have gotten more, but my nephew is only 48" and wanted to ride Mean Streak, Millennium Force, Magnum etc.

The average wait for TTD over the weekend was an hour, and that's with the line filled to the pop machines in the queue.

The only time that TTD was down was when it started raining, and that was maybe an hour or two of the whole day. The rest of the time they were launching trains with a 2-3 minute interval.

wow this really stinks. i'm goin in 11 days and it better b open! i've been waiting all year for this! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS THING??? PLEASE WORK!

Go to CP insted and ride TTD. :}

coastacrazy...I wouldn't count on it being open anytime soon.

My uneducated wild guess: Around July 4th, if we're lucky

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costacrazy said:
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS THING??? PLEASE WORK!

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It's an Intamin!

LOL Brett...I was thinking more along the lines of knowledge that could help the *existing* Intamin hydraulic launchers...

Me, I think I'd be tempted to look at Premier or S&S if I wanted a launched ride....Intamin makes "the best rides for me", but when they're standing around idle, they're KILLING the parks' bottom lines....

The day-and-a-half or so I spent at CP, I saw (from ID's queue) one train being rolled back into the launch area, other than that TTD seemed to run quite reliably. Of course, if it were me, the tophat would've faced West-to-East so that I didn't encounter "Windjammer Stallage"...of course it's too late for that, so maybe tweak the launch just a hair and send the train at say, 122 or 123....just a thought.

While I'm thrilled that TTD is doing well this year, from a business viewpoint, 2-3 years to get pretty reliable is 2-3 years too long. (See X for further reference)

Even though TTD is "reliable" in our eyes this year, the maint. staff could be going through hell and lots of $$ just to keep it that way, for all we know. *** Edited 6/13/2005 7:02:00 PM UTC by Peabody***

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rollergator said:

Me, I think I'd be tempted to look at Premier or S&S if I wanted a launched ride....

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Well, It's been 8 years since B&R:TC was installed at gadv and 7 since they've been running and they still haven't run perfectly with Batman being down almost everyday.

TwinsGP, of the list of Premier LIM-launchers, I've ridden all but the one in Japan. This includes: Both Mummys, Speed, both FoFs, JJ, Polty, and both Mr. Freezes. Hmmmmmmm....weird that ALL of those run, run reliably, and are REALLY fun rides (well, since the retrofits anyway, LOL).

I am *compelled* to believe that there's SOMETHING amiss at GAdv in regards to Chiller, cause nobody else has those issues. Plus, when factoring in JJF, Top Spin, Evolution, and the rest (RT for instance), the problems seem to stem from the park, not the manufacturer(s).

FWIW, SFGAm and SFStL seem to be doing really well with Revolution (Frisbee) and Xcalibur (Evolution)....wonder what park would like to *give a shot* at taking on the Huss Jump? ;)

When I was at PKD on memorial Day weekend, HyperSonic XLC was down for about an hour for mechanical problems. That's an S&S that opened in march of 2001 and it's still having problems.

I think they should get rid of that launch system, and just mount a pratt& whitney jet engine on each train. Then they won't have to worry about rollbacks or cables snapping or any problems. If you want to call it a rocket coaster they should launch it like one.