If you could own your hometown park....
For Knoebels I'd:
1. Sell season passes
2. Add an or ride photo on the double down of the Phoenix
3.Add a photo in the Haunted Mansion at the truck
4. Build a drop ride near the enterance to Twister.
5. Build an indoor mine themed Wild Mouse so it looks like the inside of a mine.
6. Once a year have a contest for the craziest pilot on the flyers. Winner would get a season pass. Runner ups day passes. -----------------
Hello, My name is Dan and I'm a coasterholic.
*** This post was edited by coasterpunk on 10/29/2001. ***
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Top 5
1.) Beast 2.) Phantom's Revenge 2.) SROS (SFNE) 4.) SROS (SFDL) 5.) MF
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Montu, God Of Coasters
Raging Bull, Don't Fight It, Ride It
-I'd lower the parking charges or get rid of them alltogether...-I'd replace all the lightbulbs throughout rides like Phantom Theater, and Flight o' Fear...-I'd shave that damn Gillette Mach 3 sponser off of Top Gun...-I'd make Top Gun's queue go back through the fully operational aircraft carrier again...-I'd put a show back into the Festhaus instead of stupid Qtv...-I'd turn all the trims and lights off on the Beast and put the pond back where it was and get the mill working again...-Forget replacing the lights on Phantom Theater, I'd just bring the much funner Smurf Ride back...-I'd bring back Smurf ice cream...-I'd make those big Hanna Barbara costumes airconditioned for those poor people who have to lug them around all summer...-I'd bring back Winterfest!!!-I'd put tunnels on SOB...-I'd take that garbage smell away that the Racer always gets around the station when it's really hot...-I'd strip that purple paint off of the Beastie...-I'd still build Tomb Raider: The Ride, but I'd put it somewhere else so I wouldn't have to destroy KCKC...-I'd get new cars for Dodgem...-I'd finally get a B&M coaster put in, maybe the Son of King Cobra...
There is much more, but that would take up a lot of space...
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*** This post was edited by sfne guy on 10/30/2001. ***
*** This post was edited by sfne guy on 10/30/2001. ***
The gate concept for last season was a winner, no more loitering, but there should be some kind of admissions policy that people can understand, I may understand it, but lines at the ticket booths kill me, it requires explanation in detail for every other person through those gates!
The Wild Mouse, I think I'd have some duct tape and superglue removed in favor of proper maintenance.
Make the Hydro Surge so it's not a complete wall of soaking water doom, make the boats on the flume ride stop holding so much water, and find out why the Catepillar doesn't enclose while it goes backwards. If it can enclose, I'd make it do that.
The Hurricane needs to be taken care of. Dispatch times would be much faster, the ride's still not broken in they load so slow. No need to add new coasters, though, a mouse and this CCI are good enough. If anything's added or replaced, it would have to be flatrides, but a two coaster park rules here.
Also, affordable season passes! Insane weekend hours and price discounts to get the people into the park. There are days when MB is so crowded, you can't move your car, but you go to the Pavilion and nobody's there! Hurricane trains to yourself all day long. The price has to come down, it's just over $5 if you buy tickets to ride the Hurricane alone. $23 for a wristband.
Last, but most important, I'd have to hire somebody to come in and turn the place around, I should be facing the ocean from like five different things, it just doesn't happen.......
Year 1: Lower admission to 40.00 and parking to 5.00. Prescreen employees making sure they are enjoyable. Add an Xtreme family coaster such as Jaguar, or a Wild Mouse. Also refurbish the midway, make it what it should be, a place to spend time away from the rides and relax and enjoy the scenery. Free Refills on refreshments
Year 2: Retrack Colussus and reprofile the double dip, this shouldn't be to hard as the track boards(I don't know exactly what they're called) are still under the brake. Race Colussus. Buy new floorless suspended trains for Ninja and lap bar trains for Revolution.
Year 3: Add Intamin Impulse or launch coaster from Premier near Colussus area (possibly behind Magic Moments Theater). Paint jobs for some of the coasters that need it.
Year 4: Large package of new flat rides, removing more old rides which never have queues. Also, adding at least 2 in the Rapids area. This area is dead. Raise park price up 2 dollars (for inflation, etc.) Also Rehab for various rides such as RR, B:TR, Viper, Goliath, Flashback, etc.
Year 5: Cosmetic Improvements, new trashcans :)
Year 6: Add more pay rides in the area where Dive Devil, Thrillshot, and the Go Karts are in.
After this add a terrain woodie in the Rapids area, and anything else that would be suggested the park needs
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Drive to theme parks for the food, stay for the coasters!! Knott's Fried Chicken
P>nbsp;if inbsp; owned sfdl i would do the followingBR>i would put in these new coasters- a b+m dive machine, a b+m flyer, a b+m sit down or stand up or floorless, an inamin impulse, a gci racing dueling woodie, a cci woodie, a tilt coaster, an s+s thrust air, a wild mouse, a jr. coaster, jr. inverted (aarowbatic) a fourth dimension and a clone of joakers jinx with lap bars.nbsp; BR>nbsp;would add a drop ride of some sort that would drop you at least 250 feet. BR>nbsp;would add a vertigo, turbo force and euro bungee up charge attractions. BR>nbsp;would add new speed slides, tube slides, a lazy river, a family raft slide, boating slides, matt slides, bowl slides, a coaster slide,nbsp; a super satruater, some flow riders, a couple new kiddie coves, some kiddie water slides and maybe another wave pool/P>
P>FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">inbsp; would add some flats such as delirium, fly away, giant jump, giant frisbee, shockwave, breakdance, evolution to name a few.nbsp;nbsp; /P>
P>i would enhance the kiddie ride collection /P>
P>i would add a intamin chute the chutes./P>
P>nbsp;inbsp; would fix up the landsacping, get rid of the asphalt pavement, put in cedar point esque paths, put in more fountains./Pgt; BR>inbsp; would finally add more shows. BR>SFDL, could you do me a favor and PLEASE put in at least one of these things??? BR>----------------- BR>quot;who needs drugs when you have coasters...they're like a natural highquot;/P>
*** This post was edited by amusementparkfanatic85 on 10/31/2001. ***
Thats if i have the room.
Also, I would move the rock climbing somewhere else, it gets in the way too much. When the King Cobra gets too old (which it will), I would remove it and remove Days of Thunder and put in a newer, improved King Cobra, maybe name it Venom. I might even preserve part of Cobra's track, probably the circle part when the seats get perpendicular to the ground.
As an added touch, I would put fans blowing mist at strategic places throughout the park - it gets HOT on summer days and this would encourage more Cincinnatians to come to the park. The Racers would duel 24/7 if I was in charge. I would put the Days of Thunder movie back in Action Theater. I would also expand the kiddie park even more because families are the main source of income for most parks. Part of this would be an indoor ride, located behind the Nickelodeon Zone, that is similar to Space Mountain in Disneyworld.
After maybe six years, I would tear out Face/Off and replace it with two rides that are similar, but longer to Face/Off, and have them duel each other.
1. Remove Paramount and all the selling-out movie crud they have, and bring it back to the old glory of KING'S ISLAND
2. No breaks on The Beast. Bring back the 4th train. Turn off lights, tear out that "Q TV" garbage in the lines
3. Re-Open the other side of antique cars
4. Move TR:TR and keep KCKC!
5. Bring back the Flight Commander
6. Repaint the Racer to its original Red White Blue
7. tear out the Rock Climbing wall and re-install Skylab (Cedar Point's Witch's Wheel type of ride)
8. Tear down SOB and try again
9. Turn on the lights of Flight of fear one day a week just for kicks
10. Smurf Ride needs to come back
11. build new parking lot
12. Hire enthusiastic staff
13. Do like they did back in the day and allow skating on the fountain in the winter
14. Put old bat cars on TopGun
15. Make more Larosa's Pizza, Skyline Chili, and Montgomery Inn ribs restaraunts in the park
16. LOWER THE PRICE. Notice when KI lowered their price near the end of the season the park was packed
17. Reopen upper deck of the Eiffel Tower
18. Never get arid of KingCobra
These are just a few, I could go on for hours. Man, the good old days before Paramount came along. Good Times!
Year One
-Re theme the park. As it stands there is no type of theming. Walking around you could just think of a million different ways to theme the park. Maybe give it the whole "El Dolrado" City of Gold look, because the Spainish looked for the city of gold in Arkansas. Just a thought.
- Add a few flat rides. Nothing major, maybe even add a skycoaster or some kind of extra pay ride.
Year two, by this time I would have hopefully landed a few more corprate sponsers , Tyson maybe Wal Mart (don't laugh they make billions of dollars a year, and it is an Arkansas company)
- Contiune renovanitions to the park. Re Theming the rides.
- Add a new water ride. The flume they have now is kind of weak. Maybe a rapid ride.
- Begin surveying and talking about Year three surpirse and expansion. Begin building Ampitheater in new section of the park.
Year three, the big year for the park.
- Two new coasters, A B&M hyper, and a Vekoma, (yeah I know , but I spent a lot of money on my hyper coaster) Coaster something with at least three inversions.
- Open up the new area of the park with the two new coasters and several shops and shows avaible. Ampitheather sould be completed by now. As well as a few other venures to hold shows in.
- Decidate an area of the park for kids.
Year four.
-Marketing, Marketing, Marketing.
- Another type of thrill ride and a few more flat rides.
- Re introduce the park with a brand new name. Replace Magic Springs to something like "Arkansas Adventure" or even "El Dolardo"
Year five
- Build onto the new section of the park. Add a few more rides.
Year six
- A record breaking coaster that will make Cedar Points drool.
But this is all "What if" I live in Arkansas "The land of no coasters"
Year 1---Remove brakes on the American Eagle. Repaint and somewhere display a huge American flag, with lights on it at times. Also, race the coaster. Repaint necessary coasters and rides. Remove Power Dive.
Year 2---Retrack American Eagle with new Intamin style wooden track. Get new Intamin trains. Get new light package, with tracers, and lights simular to Millennium Force. That huge white wooden structure would be great to shine lights apon. Lower Parking to $5.00.
Year 3---Re-condition and re-build the Sky Whirl on the former games area between V2 and DejaVu at the edge of Batman. Lose Six Flags name, to just Great America.
Year 4---Rip out the kiddie lands, and sever contract Looney Tunes/Cartoon Network. Leave Spacely Spocket Rockets. In the spot of the kiddie lands, the area which use to be Camp Cartoon Network becomes re-themed to to some Great America maskots. The coaster is also re-themed. Also, with all the new kiddie rides, add another kiddie coaster, but this one is wooden. Built by CCI, this cute little ride could be called the Little Racer. In the other space, build a 100' dueling CCI, but one track, so that each train ends up in the other station every time. Could be called the Great American Racer.
Year 5---Total gutting of SW Territory theme. Keep all rides, but re-theme the area to a Wild West/Frontiertown area. The coaster's can probably keep there names (Raging Bull and Viper). But rename/re-theme rides such as Giant Drop, Trailblazer, Chubasco, Ricochet, and maybe River Rocker. Plant many trees and redo buildings.
Year 6---Add B&M Flyer, 150' tall. Too be placed near Iron Wolf, in employee parking lot. The Parking lot is moved down towards Shockwave.
Year 7---Tear up ground underneath Shockwave (old parking lot) and plant grass, trees, and build a huge public pavilion. Make it so you fly through the trees so, very dense trees. Cosmetic Improvements. Buy land out behind American Eagle. Also, add walking trail down beneath Shockwave.
Year 8---Move American Eagle's queue around, and try to get a Circus back under that tent. Expand train ride to go through Wild West/Frontier area. Bring back original Demon theming to Demon (the big face, screams, blood).
Year 9---Buy new trains for Shockwave, still have OTSRs, but have the trains run much smoother, probably with shock absorbers. Also, remove seatbelts on Whizzer. They don't do that much. If someone wants to get out and die that bad, they can just take off the seatbelt.
Year 10--Being 2011, it will be Great America's 35th Birthday. In that case, jumping fountains all around. Fountains in the pool in front of Columbian Carousel. In the land behind American Eagle, build waterpark with a MasterBlaster, six enclosed slides, six open slides, a kiddie area, a big family raft slide, a lazy river, and a wave pool. Also, back there, open Hotel America. The 2000-room hotel, a five story building, has 400 rooms on each floor. Very fancy, with rooms ranging from $135 a night to $1500 a night at midseason. Both of these, are connected to the park by an air conditioned enclosed walkway, like a big airport teminal. It sits 20 feet off the ground, going right over the maintance roads, to a new entrance under American Eagle.
Though I could sit here for hours, this is a post, not a book, so I will stop a ten years. I hope you like my newly improved park.
Tim
*** This post was edited by MFRULES on 11/6/2001. ***
Well lets see...what would I do in this case?
Assuming I took over in late 2002 with the new animal thing built, and the Hyper groundbreaking started I would do the following:
YEAR 1 (2003)
(Keep in mind the proposed hyper would now be open)
First thing for starters...I would build a large dorm, so I could put up a ton of employees in there at a low rent cost to them complete with restaurant and a small store.
Assuming that the new Geauga Lake road is built, eliminating the security guard and traffic light up front, the next project is to repave that darn parking lot. A major parking lot expansion would have to be created. The swamp-like area would be drained and filled in, and though this would be a 3-year task, due to the marshy area and new settling of the new parking lot. Included in this project would be an enormous upgrade to the lights and markings for car spaces. The SIX flagpoles would move up more and become flush with the X-flight fence.
The admission price would not change any more than $1-$2/yr due to inflation. However, parking would stay at $9, I would advertise, and I MEAN advertise a $35 parking pass for the year.
Though expensive, the Main Gate would be pushed back as well thus giving a larger plaza area. A new credit card machine would be added to all merchadise areas and shops thats similair to a self-checkout station at a supermarket.
This would allow for a more spacey entrance which would occupy part of the shady path area next to Villians turn around. This whole overall area, would allow more traffic and still provide a large "park-like" atmosphere.
150 new trash cans would be scattered around the park. With enough employees to empty them
In order to sell more soda, I would have the price go down to $2 per 10 oz. bottle. Food prices would be less outragous as well.
Some midway games would be demolished and reloctated to create more traffic space.
Customer service would have to get better. There is NO doubt about it. I would need to hire out companies that do motivational programs with my employees, not only in my park, but throughout the chain. Managers would actually work, not walk around and look important. All management would be required to wear professional clothing. Security guards would wear white shirts to cut down on the heat.
With the addition of the dorm, I could rely on kids from other countries to do a work exchange program, much of what they have now. As an incentive to the employees, I would have a new sign on bonus as well as a end-of-the-year bonus. I would be able to staff more people and run guests through faster per hour. The hourly wage would go up to entice more people to work for me. Certain jobs (janitorial) would be at a much higher wage than say ride attendent.
Life guards would be stationed around the rapids ride.
There would be more shade and tables.
YEAR 2 (2004)
While customer service and attendence goes up, its time to look at the overall product. All rides would get their neccessary paintjobs.
Hydes is replaced with a 3-tower S&S.
Big Dipper would be covered with tracer lights. and get its logo on the front of its trains.
Wolf bobs would run 2 new articulated trains with fin brakes and black lap bars. It will also be covered with tracer lights.
The Rocket Ships , Casino, and Rotor will return.
New light kit on Silver Bullet which gets moved up front near Superman to be re-named "Speeding Bullet"
The Flying Scooters will return to the Wildlife side as "The Butterflies" Now brightly painted, the "Butterflies" would have its drive system re-worked so they don't run as fast, so you can finally snap them. Also, a new braking system would be added.
The Monorail would be repaired so it doesnt go so slow on the return curve.
Double Loop will be repainted (again) This time Black and Tan with good primer. Also, the trains will be updated with an automatic restraint release and new harnesses. The gates would be pushed back by a foot, so you can get someone on the other side checking bars.
The antique cars would be refurbished
HUSS Breakdance named RODEO to go in place of Silver Bullet. The pathway to the pavillions would be moved to accomodate more people.
Yo Yo is refurbished and completely rebuilt.
Serial Thriller would get new restraints, this time designed to stop the head-banging
The Go-Carts would be renamed "Super Hero Speedway"
A second bridge would be installed on the right side of the lake near the waterpark to loosen the traffic near the Batman midway.
YEAR 3:
All maintenience shops, administrative offices and storage facilities would be moved out of site and away from the public, but be highly accessable to workers.
A large privacy and sound quieting fence would be erected near any residential area to help muffle any sounds and improve the relationship with the neighbors.
Roadrunner Express (Morer Shone Mouse)
Miler Kiddie coaster in kiddieland
Kiddieland expands behind wheel with Large Stage and 3 more rides.
I would build a large public community pool with slide for the city of Aurora for absolute control of the lake.
Hurricane Harbor expands down the strip towards Sea World Thus creating a Second Entrance with new water raft rides, slides, and play ares.
All asphalt in the park would be ripped up in favor for concrete.
YEAR 4
Diving Show
Upgrade of all Quality shows
Relocated Arrow Mine Train
HUSS Giant Frisbee
HUSS Trokia
MONDIAL Top Scan
Train
YEAR 5
Golden Ticket Award Winner
*** This post was edited by john peck on 11/3/2001. ***
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