HW 2009

How about another wooden coaster with a loop.........Son of Voyage, perhaps?

So long as its not longer than Voyage...that would be disrespectful ;)

Maybe it is a restaurant that serves pancakes!

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Mamoosh said:
So long as its not longer than Voyage...that would be disrespectful ;)

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ROFL. I'd forgotten about that.

I am sure if anything had happen in this area, including the mowing of the grass, someone would have mentioned it by now, but has anyone been to Spencer County lately and seen more activity in this area?

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DaCoasterMan said:I'm a skeptic on this. With the state of the economy, I dont think any company dependent on people driving to it, is willing to make a huge capital investment at this time. They are either foolish (not likely being HW) or have a gobs of money to spend freely. I would prefer they hold back for a while. They have been on an expansion tear for a while already.

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So why did Kings Island build the Beast in the winter of 78 at the height of a gas crisis and the beginning of a recession?

EXACTLY THAT REASON.

Seems to me most parks are doing well, Expecially from local patrons.
Chuck

Our Mountain Dew cans in Cincinnati have a $4 off coupon to HW....and what appears to be a B&M invert. Does HW have any say on the can design?

^ Nah, it's just the generic theme park design for all Pepsi discount cans. You'll see the same one on Kings Island & Kentucky Kingdom discount cans as well, neither of which have a B&M inverted.

That being said, I cannot imagine a more perfect choice than a B&M inverted for HW. However, a "cheap" B&M inverted runs about $10M. Custom layouts are even more. I'm not sure I can see HW spending that kind of capital on a single ride. But I sure hope they do!

Since they will most likely be building something in SS as well, does anybody think its possible that they will just go the cheaper route and buy Laser from Dorney if they are looking to add a steel "loopy" coaster? It would certainly fit their park.

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Emiroo said:
That being said, I cannot imagine a more perfect choice than a B&M inverted for HW.

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Agreed, if by "more perfect" you actually meant "more awful."

Well...if we're playing the what I would like to see at Holiday World game then I'll play:

How about a custom spinning coaster in the 4th of July section themed to those ground-spinning firecrackers, aka Whirlwinds? The station could be themed to a fireworks factory. Having ridden spinning coasters from a number of manufacturers I've yet to find one better than Gerstlauer's 420/4 model (aka WoF's Spinning Dragons, the Tony Hawk coasters, etc).

They could even put the model's large 270* turn around the carousel, much like Mall of America's goes around the Wave Swinger, seen here.

^I liked Spinball Whizzer better than Pandemonium, but that's just me. My buddy and I seemed to agree that the Gerstlauer's ride more like "mice" while the Maurer-Sohne's ride more like a normal steel coaster. Spinball was definitely more intense than Pandemonium, and that's not necessarily a better thing depending on what a park is looking for.

The Maurer Söhne spinning coaster at Waldameer blew the socks off any other spinner I have ridden including the Gerstlaurs. One of those would fit very nicely even a normal off the shelf model.

I still say HW needs a nice mine train, but that's just me.

Face it, it's a big step from Howler to Raven.

The spinner idea is a good one and if they did go with a steel coaster I'm sure it could be something in that vein. Not saying it's likely or anything but if I were running the place I'd have it on my list of possibilities. Along with something like this, perhaps -

http://www.rcdb.com/ig2590.htm

Of course, that's more the enthusiast talking because we don't really have one of those over here. :)

LMAO that was the first coaster I thought of when I got to thinking about a Mouse at HW.

Seems like it would cover the Mine Train as well as Mouse type ride pretty well.

That coaster looks like a ton of fun. Anybody ever ridden it and can say if it was as much fun as it looks.

It's a great coaster with lots changes in directions, airtime and a great downward helix in it. Think it would fit perfectly in HW...

A Maurer spinner would be the perfect(!) fit for Holiday World! Waldameer's spinner was far and away the best spinner I've ever ridden (and it's their off the shelf model), and I've heard nothing but good about Spinball Whizzer, Dragon's Fury, Tarantula, the Winjas, and Twister (though in fairness, I've actually heard nothing about Twister. It is in Lebanon though...).

They're great family rides and are generally just giggle-inducing ridiculous fun without being turbo-intense like, say, the Voyage. Can't think of a better fit for HW to be honest...

My thoughts (hopes) when HW does put in a major steel coaster is that they follow the Intamin Expedition G Force, Goliath in Europe, Superman SFNE model. It doesn't have to be too tall but ever since I rode Superman SFNE, my view of steel coasters really changed. Amazing drops and air time. El Toro to me doesn't feel much different than Superman SFNE. Anyway, I think a nice terrain steel non-looping coaster would be awesome the way HW dreams up rides. However, if you have to take into account what some of you have said, then if they go steel, to make it different enough from the woodies, it probably should have loops. Even though I could give or take going upside down or staying right side up on a coaster anymore. That doesn't determine how much I like a coaster or not. When I recently rode Alpengeist again, that made going upside down awesome, other loopers are kind of boring though.

So, an Intamin Rocket Coaster could make sense. Add terrain, drops, air-time, a few inversions. Think Stormrunner or Fahrenheit, in the $10-12 million range. I agree with others, I don't see HW spending more than $15 million on a coaster ever. They make money but they don't make money on parking, drinks, things like that for extra capital.

I'm thinking ground-breaking area for future T-giving expansion is what we'll see. Like someone said, the major coaster will come later, 2010-11. After Voyage opened, I 100% believed they'd put in a steel coaster by 2010 given what a torrid pace that park is growing at, yet still doing it right and one step at a time.

The Tony Hawk spinners are great too, another good idea.

"#1 for family fun." Holiday World's target audience is families. Based on that I don't think we'll be seeing a large steel roller coaster anytime soon.