Horse Creek Productions?

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If you think Cedar Fair is worried about videos that have been on sale for many many years, perhaps you should think again.

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I don't have to think again. I know for a fact Cedar Fair takes this stuff seriously. They've taken action against far less.

Giving a heads up to someone who's IP is being used is hardly "tattle-tailing" and is certainly not a waste of time. Coaster site webmasters communicate with and watch out for each other, especially on these types of issues. If an amusement park company is brought into that loop, that's not a bad thing.

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Well, at least I didn't hear any of my music in the vids :)

Probably because it's that wussy, classical guitar stuff.

-Vater, who is of course really, really kidding. A lot. :)

lol...yeah, but I can rock out with the best of them. Ask Rob...he knows I can kick Eddie Van Halen's a$$ :)

"Ask Rob...he knows I can lick Eddie Van Halen's a$$"

TMI! TMI!

Oh my!!!

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Zero-G said:
I definetly recognized some of that music in the trance/house department. Record labels do make some allowences if the intent is to promote a song (part of why radio stations will never pay a dime to get their music), but it's not like they told us what song was playing at what time.

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Just wanted to mention, radio stations pay millions of dollars a year to record labels to play the music over the air. Nothing is free when it comes to the music industry.

Jeff,

I think it's funny that anyone would consider a lawsuit over this. Sorry if this touches a nerve, and I personally don't care all that much to argue anymore. I say it's a fine line. We all break the law a little whether it's 5 mph over the speed limit, steal a hotel towel, or run a Kazaa program. It's ticky tack in this case, IMO.

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Kazaa

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Which brings up my standard plug for Rhapsody. $10/month for all the music you can stream. Great deal, awesome service, and totally legal.

Yeah Brian... makes perfect sense until it's your livelihood. Besides, with things as simple and straight-forward as this, you don't even need to go to court. One threatening letter will get you all the action you need.

And don't even pretend that there's some ambiguity about the seriousness between speeding and copying and distributing someone else's property.

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Black 7 said:

Just wanted to mention, radio stations pay millions of dollars a year to record labels to play the music over the air. Nothing is free when it comes to the music industry.

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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Oftentimes, it's the musicians paying radio stations to get their stuff played, not the other way around.

-Nate

Um... no Nate. Radio stations pay ASCAP/BMI licensing fees. Technically speaking, any place that performs music publicly needs to. Even clubs and DJ's.

Exactly, the radio stations pay. What Nate is talking about "Payola", is illegal. Don't be so quick with "obviously you don't know what you're talking about". *** Edited 4/22/2004 2:25:16 AM UTC by Peabody***

Wow... I haven't heard that term in ages. I remember having to sign agreements when I worked in radio saying I would never accept payola. You know, back when actual local humans ran radio stations...

There Are Ways, though. For example, clear channel has been known to pull artists off its playlists when those artists refuse to use CC's concert promotion arm. See this Salon article for an interesting take.

Or actual humans ran the media company in the case of Clear Channel.

Record companies frequently have to pay companies like Clear Channel to get their artists (especially new artists) played on their radio stations. You don't have to pay fees to play music publically if you have permission and know how to work your way around "the rules"...and given the number of stations Clear Channel owns, it's pretty clear why they're not paying bundles for licensing fees. Additionally, it's not Payola when you're paying Indies and not the stations directly...but the concept is exactly the same.

-Nate *** Edited 4/22/2004 5:28:42 AM UTC by coasterdude318***

So I guess the "cool" and "popular" thing to do is assume it's all stolen footage then. I guess it's way beyond the realm of possibility that they actually have.. you know.. permission.

Jes, my suggestion to you since you still feel "wronged" is email them. Have you tried this approach to venting your displeasure or would you just rather lambast them on a public forum?

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Jeff said:
Wow... I haven't heard that term in ages. I remember having to sign agreements when I worked in radio saying I would never accept payola. You know, back when actual local humans ran radio stations...

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LOL! Oh those were the days! I had to do the same when I worked for a radio station in college, even though I had nothing to do with programming.

I forgot all about that until now. lol.

-Tina

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coasterdude318 said:
Record companies frequently have to pay companies like Clear Channel to get their artists (especially new artists) played on their radio stations.

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No, Nate... that's not legal. You'll get your license yanked in a heartbeat. You're wrong.

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You don't have to pay fees to play music publically if you have permission and know how to work your way around "the rules"...

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Wrong again. Skip on ASCAP/BMI and see if those two organizations don't sue you out of existance.

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Additionally, it's not Payola when you're paying Indies and not the stations directly...but the concept is exactly the same.

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What are you even talking about? Face it Nate, you don't know...