Holiday World should ban smoking

"Why is prostitution illegal? Selling is legal, fu#*ing is legal! So why isn't selling fu#*ing legal?! Why is it illegal to sell something that is perfectly legal to give away?!" - George Carlin is absolutely brilliant :)

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*** This post was edited by rOLLocOASt 8/7/2003 4:51:09 PM ***

Nevada.

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Heh heh.....yup

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"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza

Exactly! We need more states like Nevada that simply don't care! :)

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Corey
"Afterward, services resumed for about 20 minutes until the congregation realized the church was on fire." - www.channel3000.com

stopher said: No, but guns, cars, terrorism, war, and aids probably kills two times more people a day than smoking related illness.

Actually, tobacco kills more people than AIDS, murder, drugs, alcohol, suicide and car crashes combined.


*** This post was edited by rentzy17 8/7/2003 5:49:22 PM ***

Oh bullcrap, and how many of those people it supposedly kills are 80-90 years old?

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If given the choice I'd choose a hamburger over a hotdog anyday of the week.

Is their age really relevant when it comes to how they die? Would you rather die from old age or from a long battle with cancer?

I'm just telling you that facts. That's not bullcrap.


News flash. Holiday World has banded smoking on Monday Wednesday Friday and Sunday. We can stop talking about it now!
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MForce - If an 80 year old murders a 90 year old, would it 'not count' because 'they're old and are going to die anyway?'

Probably not.

I understand where you're trying to go, but don't think it's a logical argument. If your death is smoking related, then it's smoking related, regardless of your age.


*** This post was edited by chris 8/7/2003 6:09:26 PM ***

Actually, that is not really the case, since "smoking" is not tracked as an actual cause of death. Here are the top ten causes of death in 2000, the last year data was avalible for:

Heart Disease: 710,760

Cancer: 553,091

Stroke: 67661

Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease: 122,009

Accidents: 97,900

Diabetes: 69,301

Pneumonia/Influenza: 65,313

Alzheimer's Disease: 49,558

Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 37,251

Septicemia: 31,224


Source: National Center for Heath Statistics

As you can see, heart disease remains the number one killer by a large margin. This can be causes by many things, not just smoking. As can Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease, the number 3 killer. There is no "smoking" statisic. It is something that cannot be pinned down simply because there are so many factors that contribute to a death. I truely believe that any death attributed soley to smoking is false and a manipulation of the facts. It may be a contributing factor, but it is not the only reason.
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*** This post was edited by Black 7 8/7/2003 6:10:59 PM ***

But those are some pretty convincing 'smoking related' statistics.
You are NOT going to get heart disease, cancer, or any SOMETIMES smoking related illness from sniffing a puff of someone's cigarette.
You might not die if I KICK you HARD in the GROIN either...but would you LIKE it?
You might not die from second-hand smoke, but it can't be too good for you.

B.O. may be just as annoying as second-hand smoke to some people. However, I doubt it could harm someone in anyway.

Also, the marketing tactics of the tobacco companies are much more manipulative than the accuracy of those statistics Black 7.


CoastaPlaya said:
You might not die if I KICK you HARD in the GROIN either...but would you LIKE it?


Don't do that, you will force me have to start a *****y thread debating whether you should be banned.
*** This post was edited by stopher 8/7/2003 8:33:39 PM ***

Gee, and I thought we covered all the bases. Anyone who likes to get kicked where it counts.... line up on the left please.

Wood - anything else is an imitation

Maybe not intelligent, but it made me chuckle.

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rentzy17 said:


Also, the marketing tactics of the tobacco companies are much more manipulative than the accuracy of those statistics Black 7.


And the non-smoking advocacy groups are even more manipulative than the tobacco companies in the way they spin the fact and distort truth.

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*** This post was edited by Lord Gonchar 8/7/2003 9:42:29 PM ***

"Truth" my butt.

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If given the choice I'd choose a hamburger over a hotdog anyday of the week.

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Exactly, Brent :)

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