Thrill - like roller coasters and free-fall rides
Entertain - like dark rides, train rides, attraction pre-shows
Disorient - like the scrambler or the monster
Get Wet - like flume rides or river rapid rides
Or combinations of all of these, Tomb Raider: The Ride has all four!
Well, to me it doesn't sound like a top spin because it is not like the scrambler or the monster, it is not like roller coasters and free-fall rides, they are all different. It is hard for me to think about what kind of ride it is so what do you guys think about what kind of ride it is?
-Derek
The ride on the other hand we'll just have to wait and see. But on top spins, you can get all four of those things, but if this is an in-house design, it could be a variation of the idea. One things I'm comfused about on those Screamscape blueprints is how they expect to fit the ride, theming, and a crane all in that building which looks way too small if that top spin is actually going to move.
He is the PR guy for PKI...And he's getting from us exactly what he wanted, which is to have us wondering, scratching our heads and salivating for PKI's opening day to find out what TR:TR is...
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"It's Deja Vu all over again." - Yogi Berra
*** This post was edited by PkI FaNaTiC on 12/26/2001. ***
http://www.cubeit.com/ctimes/news/2001/07/news0694.html
Here is a tid bit that said it NETTED 48 million in the first weekend and over 75 million by the second.
http://www.videogamereview.com/dailynews/comments/993055145,96443,.asp
But who cares about that. Paramount was looking for a ride that they could heavily theme based on a film. It is the logical choice, plus the game was a mega hit for years. You get all the kids and adults who played this game and loved the film, like me, and you just might have a hit on your hands if you can manage to make the ride exciting and interesting.
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Mike Middleton of Urbana, Indiana
Just curious to wonder why you believe differently?
There are a lot of folks that are 'hoping' for a coaster or something similar. I just hope these folks are not let down because they didn't 'get' what they hoped, or are so let down that they don't give a chance to what could very well be the best ride in the park.
As far as the building being able to hold such a 'possible' large ride, I think there is more than enough room. That building is HUGE!
Derek,
I can name many rides that disorient riders that are nothing like the Scrambler or the Monster. I think what Jeffrey is saying is the ride can disorient riders 'like' a spinning ride can.
Wabash,
I agree with you fully! The name Tomb Raider is a HUGE name. I am excited about the ride, and I haven't even seen the movie. I have been a very large fan of the game since the very 1st day it came out (I pre ordered it 2 months in advance). While the actual ride that is going into Tomb Raider may have been themed a bit differently before the park decided to go with that theme, I think naming the ride Tomb Raider was a smart move. It is a very popular name and hopefully will be a very popular ride.
-Sean
wahoo skipper said:
TR reportedly cost "at least $100 million" to make. Those figures likely do not include the marketing of the film. It grossed $131.14 at the box office for a net of $31 million and change. That isn't exactly gang busters.
Well, you're right it's not... that is if they only released the movie in the US. But since they didn't and it is Paramount's 5th top grossing movie worldwide in the past 4 years(#1 in 2001), I would assume it was their best bet unless you would have preferred Runaway Bride or What Women Want: The Ride.
But it's still not a bomb which usually refers to movies which drastically miss the mark for making a profit or coming out even. It seems nowadays very few movies actually make the profit in the US alone. I would say Paramount was lucky on this one. Video game-movies and movies led by women rarely make it big. It definitely was anything but disappointing.
Now that the ride will arrive in January, instead of a top spin, what could it be?
And does a top spin have "the vehicle of escape"?
-Derek
You know me, Charlie Weingartner. You also know that I'm 13. Most older buzzers on here would say that I'm unexperienced and greedy. Well if you call wanting the best for your home park greedy than everyone on here is guilty of it. If you look back to before July 2, when TR:TR was announced, PKI put out false rumors. Why couldn't these be also? Including the blue prints on Screamscape. PKI installed nothing big for their 10th and 20th anniversary. I know PKI would not want that tradition to continue. I know in the eyes of everyone at PKI a Top spin is not big. It's something HUGE, uncomprehensable. Nothing that no normall person could ever create. Something out of this world.
That's why I think that ;)
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It's his turn to feast, when you ride the Son of Beast.
It amuses me how twisted things become. It is like that old game of telephone where you stand in a line and one person on the end whispers something and once the statement reaches the person on the opposite end, it is completely different from it's origin.
The same holds true for the legend that is Tomb Raider. PKI has in place one of the brightest marketing teams in existance. By choosing their words very carefully and saying just enough, they can generate endless speculation and publicity among park goers.
If you listen very closely you can hear what they are saying about Tomb Raider. The biggest myth behind all of this is the rumored $40M price tag of the attraction. Lets take a look at where this came from:
At the official media day press event (Yes, I was present as was Sean F.) the following statement was made by Tim Fisher, General Manager of PKI: "Tomb Raider The Ride is the most ambitous addition ever undertaken in the 30 year history of the park including the 2 year $40M Action Zone Area." Now the way it was phrased, and where it was placed in the speech it sounded as if they were saying it was the most EXPENSIVE addition in the parks history. Many reporters and event attendees assesed that it must mean that the ride cost more than $40M, what PKI claims to be the cost of Action Zone.
But by saying "ambitious" the park meant that in the history of Paramount's King's Island, no ride project has ever been done on the scale by which TR:TR is being produced. They have already said that it is heavily themed, that it will include a great deal of different elements, and will be done on a scale befitting the movie's precident. But PKI is not in the business to start or dispell rumors. Good or bad, they generate publicity and that is the bottom line. If it gets word out or generates press, then why should they stop it.
I would expect, knowing how protective of the rights to Tomb Raider that Paramount Studios is, it will make fans of the game or movie very happy. Paramount would not have it any other way. The project has been in development for 3 years and culminates this summer when it opens. To say that PKI has been decieving us is completely untrue. PKI has said nothing to mislead us or direct us away from the truth. Fact is, enthusiasts have mislead themselves about the nature of the attraction.
Like Sean, I very much look forward to TR:TR with great anticipation. I do have what I would call pretty accurate knowledge of what the "ride unit" is. But we already know what the focus is... the THEMING. As I have said before think OUTSIDE of the box ;-)
In any situation when you are expecting something hugely grand you are bound to be dissapointed in some manner. I personally have never played the game and until recently had not seen the movie. I thought the film just ok, but could easily see how the theming and story line would work for the highly "techno" feel PKI seems to be going for with their additions. They like flashy and upbeat. I look for TR:TR to be very "flashy."
I anticipate going to PKI this year and enjoying the ride in the manner by which PKI has billed it: "A unique, multi sensory adventure ride...bringing the excitement, adventure and technology of Tomb Raider to life in a stunning multi-dimensional experience."
I recommend others do the same.
Shaggy
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Shaggy
A.K.A. John K.
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Now for the ride, Really! I seen sombody say $100 million! Like Shaggy pointed out, The ride is the most expensive single addition to the park in it's history, Now if we guestimate that Sonny in the ballpark of even $20 with over runs included, That puts it way bellow the figures some of you are comming up with. I look forward to TR:TR. Even if it is what screamscape says, It still could be totally awesome, Not many parks north of the Mason Dixon or East of the Rockies have such a attraction. I look forward to it.
Now IMHO there are several good rides at PKI and The Best is everybodys prefference, I love a couple of the coasters, DZ and many other things in the park but if you asked me what the best of the best is at PKI? I would almost lean toward the flyers! Yes at one time Flyers could be bought at under $10g on the used ride market, now there are parks looking specifically for this ride! Im happy that Larson Int. is bringing it back and if they are as good as the origionals, I hope ever park gets a clone!
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Charles Nungester
Park Jockey :)
Actually, Shaggy didn't say it was the most expensive attraction the park has ever invested in. The park didn't say that either. They did say it would be the most 'elaborate' that they have done.........and that it will be.
Like Shaggy, I also have an idea of what the ride 'vehicle' may be like. The reason I asked Charlie (and I didn't know that was you) why he thought differently is because I have gotten a few e-mails from people that think PKI is 'lying' about the ride not being a coaster, or a Spiderman type attraction. The park has stated quite a few times that the ride isn't neither of these, or anything close to it. I am just trying to let people know that they may be disapointed if they continue to think along those lines.
As for Mr.(or Mrs.) TR:TR2002.
1. Like Shaggy said, think 'outside' the box. Remember, one can look at a blueprint forever and think they have the ride experiance figured out, but what counts is the ACTUAL ride experiance when YOU will be riding it. Not looking at a drawing on a paper. Tomb Raider will be much more than 'just a ride'.
2. You are correct. They have added quite a lot of stuff. That is another point I was trying to make. As much as I would have loved to see a new coaster added to the park for next year, I fully understand why the park would want to add something different for a change. I really am excited about this new addition. I think it will go over very well.
3. I agree with the fact that PKI can't build a record breakng coaster every year. That is why they are trying different things. As far as a record breaking coaster coming within the next two years, I honestly doubt it, but it could happen. They don't need to add another record breaker to get the crowds in IMO.
4. I won't get into the debate on what TR actually is (or could) be, but there are people that do know what the 'ride portion' will be like. As I am sure Shaggy understands, the ride portion will be just part of the overal ride experiance. You don't even need to know about the actual ride to understand that. I think a lot of people are forgetting that. Let's just say there are going to be a lot of surprised people once this thing opens. Myself included.
Sean F. (not official in any way)
It could be like two rides in one experience. (or more) Give that a big theme and it could be better than ANY new coaster!
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