BrandonR said:
I don't believe that big book of lies called the Bible.*** This post was edited by BrandonR on 7/21/2002. ***
I look at the Bible as being strongly influenced by the society in which it was created but it fundamentally provides a series of life lessons, alot actually provided through metaphors. It's just that the reader has to sort out these different things, society-items from the life-lessons. Respect your parents, your community, be kind, be just, you know, these un-lie types of things. And how can anyone actually know what was actually originally provided in the thing, as the Bible has been translated so many times into so many different languages. Gotta keep alot of things in midn when approaching it - it's not like it's last year's Stephen King novel or anything.
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BrandonR, Do you really want me to believe that God doesn't love me because I am gay? Give me a break. According to that "book of lies" that you so disrespectivly called it, God is love, not some kind of intollerent biggot. Do you also believe that non-whites are not loved by God? What about snakes or spiders? Or Mentally disabled children? Or the Queen of England? Or a homless woman in NYC? Maybe because they are not like you, God hates them.
What about devorced people? Or exotic dancers? Or abusive fathers? Or hypocritical tele-evangelist (who say it is MY fault that the WTC fell and then recant a week later)? Or alcoholics? Or Marlyn Manson? Does God hate these people. I'll bet my good natured soul that God LOVES these people just as much as he loves you and I.
Look in the mirror and you may find something that others may not like about you. We are all put here for a reason. I wonder why he put Biggots here?
My current post has absolutely NOTHING to do with roller coasters and I appoligise for that. The hatred is so thick, I can cut it with a knife.
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4. Unacceptable topics of discussion:
The Coasterbuzz forums are dedicated to foster the discussions of roller coasters and the amusement park industry. Sometimes topics are brought up that are not in anyway related this. These topics are deleted, because there are other places on the Internet to discuss these off-topic subjects. We don't talk about world peace or curing cancer here, we talk about coasters (unless of course the peace or cancer is related to coasters). If you choose to talk about something not related to the subject matter of the forums, there are plenty of other sites on the Internet that will satisfy your needs. Examples of other unacceptable topics are those that lack merit (a 700 foot tall coaster with 19 inversions is being built at…), topics that have been brought up numerous times in the past (Cedar Point is running out of room… Superman: the Escape is not a coaster…), constant speculation about what [your park here] is going to get next year, questions that have no real answers (what are crowds like at... what will that park build...) and threads that contain best... favorite... top 10... worst... versus... most... are simply not interesting to read by anyone other than the person who started the topic. Don’t be surprised if these get closed or deleted as well. If your topic has any word ending in "-est," think twice about posting it. We also dislike anything along the lines of "first post" or an announcement about the number of posts you've made. It's not the quantity, it's the quality that counts.
Goodnight, everyone. Sleep well. And relax and enjoy life. It's short. So ride coasters!! :-)
See you at the "gay days"! ;-) ;-)
(someone DID notice I posted relavent information regarding amusement parks in this thread, on the previous page, right? Could someone else please do the same? As in, stay on topic? Thanks folks!)
And a special good night and take care to you, dexter and Helios, and all the other gay buzzers out there. Don't let the ignorance and intolerance get you down. Ride the rails and be free, and who cares what the small-minded bigots think, or why they feel compelled to post on threads that don't interest them. G'night! Sweet dreams! And may "X" open soon, and may we all get a chance to ride it! ;-)
This is Jeffs comment from the last homosexual conversation. I was gonna quote it them copy and paste it but it wont let me. So sorry Jeff for using it but i think you wrapped it up in a nut shell. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Im straight and have never had a problem with a gay person in my life. In fact i have two friends at work who are gay and i have 2 lesbian friends that are also. Even if one came on to me i would just feel flattered and politely say no. No harm done. Everyone is happy. Here on CB it looks like the gentleman in question is just wondering if their are more out there like him that love coasters. The answer is yes. I see all kinds of them at parks. Nothing wrong with it. Do you have a problem when a guy kisses his woman? Didnt think so.. So there should be no problem with this. Period! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not if it will hurt other people.
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The problem with the post in question is that it assumes gay = sex. That's fairly silly when you consider that two hetero people who care each other aren't necessarily having sex, so why would gay people?
Here's the deal... I don't think the original poster cares about anyone's high moral opinions or whatever. Such posts will be deleted.
Otherwise, I'd encourage gay members to post, since this is a social setting and it is something some members have in common, just like hetero dates, father-son bonding and staring at hoochies in the queues.
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*** This post was edited by Jeff on 4/20/2001. ***
Everyone always wants to jam their beliefs down everyone's throats. Live and let live, mind your own business...if it offends you, or doesn't interest you, ignore it. It's not like the gay people are trying to convert you, so why harass them and tell them their lifestyle is wrong ? They are not telling you that being straight is wrong.
I highly doubt the post was made with the intention of seeking a sexual partner. This is a COMMUNITY, after all...the one thing we all share is a love of coasters - but that's not the only thing some of us have in common. The person who posted was just trying to find other members who share other traits, in this case sexual orientation. It's no different than asking "Who else here prefers steel over wood ?" or "Who frequents parks in Ohio ?" It's just a topic to find other people who having something in common with you, someone who can relate to a situation. I don't see what the big deal is.
Don't even get me started on the religion thing...
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B&M_Lover said:
And one more thing, this gets me everytime, why is that someone who is against homosexuality has a less valid opinion than someone who is not against it? I know this thread didnt call for it, but, helios had to know it was coming. This is a huge religious and political controversy, your gonna tick someone off. who the hell cares about sexual orientation and whether homosexuality is wrong or right, im here to talk about coasters, and everyone just seems to be posting on this topic. please jeff or chitown, delete this and all the other irrelavent topics, like "who are you" topics or "has a ride op ever hit on you" topics, its a waste of space and time.
The validity of an opinion isn't something that can be quantified, you must realize. By nature, opinions are nebulous and indefinite. What can be assessed, however, is the motivation or reasoning behind such opinions.
So - being against homosexuality is certainly not an invalid opinion by any stretch. I like oranges. I'd place each statement on par with the other.
Now, on the other hand, to denounce another human being implies some sort of superiority - and I'm quite skeptical than anyone is superior to me. Erm, wait. . .that didn't come out right
That is, I don't think that anyone is truly superior to another. So, for you, or anyone, to speak authoritatively about what is proper, Godly, or morally sound seems a bit silly. I don't give it much worth.
Your opinion, clearly, is that there's no place for such discussion on Coasterbuzz. Helios' opinion, however runs quite contrary to that. What qualification do you possess over Helios that dictates your wishes be followed?
In all fairness, a large sample of the gay population also exhibits this trait, but from the opposing end of the argument. It's just the nature of life and opinions, I guess.
Ultimately, as Jeff's the one paying the bills, he's got the final say. Accept that. If you don't like the way Jeff runs this site, and just as many people have done, don't choose to support it.
Not everything in life is a choice. Your patronage of Coasterbuzz happens to be something you have complete control over.
Personally, I applaud Jeff (and will continue to do so) for maintaining a reasonably fresh, interesting, friendly social environment. Friendship and shared experiences of *all* sorts are just as important to the coaster community as the coasters themselves, I think.
But that's just me.
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*** This post was edited by Chernabog on 7/21/2002. ***
I'll hurry, before this thread disappears into the ether ...
You know, I'm no patriot, but some of these replies make me so proud to live in Canada, where just last week the law against same-sex marriage was declared unconstitutional. We will almost certainly have widespread gay/lesbian marriages very soon. (And I have to give props to the "right wing" leader of my province's ruling Conservative party - when asked whether he would appeal the court's ruling, he replied "Why would I possibly want to interfere in people's personal relationships?").
And by the way - we're about to decriminalize reefer too. Maybe they should call us "New Holland" ...
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Joe Carroll said:
I like this topic. It shows people's true colors (pun intended) Now we get to see who the bigots are, who the liberals are, etc. It shows a little more depth as to who we all are (or in some cases, how shallow some of you are !).
I agree 100%... rarely do I actually read through entire threads, but wow are these ones entertaining.
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Number 9 said:
Look closely at the term "Gay people". Whats the second word??? Exactly. They are people too. You might not like it, your friends may not like it, but there are people that look past a sexual preference when it comes to other people. If the guy wants to see if there are any "gay people" posting on this site, so be it.
The problem is on this site, there is no General Talk Forum. This is something you would find in that. This site is for discussing coasters, not your sexual preference. If you really cares who is gay and who isn't, e-mail them. I have absolutly nothing against gay people, but this topic belongs in a General Talk forum, something we don't have on this site. Therefore, this topic shouldn't be on the site. It's nothing to do with the fact that the topic is about gay people, I would say the same thing about a topic having to do with cars or television, ect. Bottom Line: This site is called COASTERBuzz, not Sex Buzz.
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I don't believe in religion, and that's just me. Something Awful's webmaster said a quote that made a ton of sense to me, "I think parents should wait until their child gets old enough to actually understand religion before they decide the child should worship a certain god in a certain way on a certain day. Prayers and holy text are just meaningless words to a kid, ranking up there with memorizing Civil War battle names, geography, and the Pledge of Allegiance." - http://www.somethingawful.com/archives/news-archive-27-6-2002.htm
I really don't want to get in a religious subject, I was just making a reference point that any religion that is against homosexuals (which most religions are AFAIK) shouldn't be respected since they contradict the "love everyone" they are all about. You have every right to believe in whatever you want for whatever reason, but that doesn't change my beliefs either.
*** This post was edited by BrandonR on 7/21/2002. ***
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"Escuse me, can you tell me where the heck the Mystery Lodge is"?
Hymmm, why don't I see your comments on in the "who are you" thread Rubberducky? Hypocritical? I think so...
I wish you guys would jump off your high horse and stop lecturing me on what can and can't be discussed on this forum. Several other "gay" threads have been oked by the webmaster himself, until some idiot decided to turn it into a flame war.
For the 3,000th time, why are you guys continuing to post in this thread if it's so inappropriate?
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"Escuse me, can you tell me where the heck the Mystery Lodge is"?
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The countdown has begun to Gaydays 2003 at Disney and Universal.
Closed topic.