GADV Intamin Rocket Track on site

Fun fun fun guys. Lets all agree to disagree. As a CP fanboy now, I can say as a personal note, I would hate for any Six Flags (Six f-ing Flags!) to have the tallest and fastest coaster. As an enthusiast, I would love for a larger and faster coaster to come out.

SFMM has to worry about what KBF is doing now not what CP is doing, the B&M person that is watching the constucton of Silver Bullet let it slip at Solace that Knotts is looking at another B&M really soon.

Well, if nothing else, it'll be interesting to see how quickly Great Adventure can get the ride back up after a cable break. :)

The people at SFMM never have and never will worry about what CP is doing.

-Nate

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BATWING FAN SFA said:
Reason #1.We all know that SFMM is SF's CP wannabe,whenever CP gets a coaster SFMM usually does & they always try to go for some sort of record such as height,speed or inversions.

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You're right. I completely forgot about how SFMM followed up MF with a taller hyper coaster and Wicked Twister with a record breaking impulse. Thanks for setting us all straight.

Let's not forget that these coasters take yearS to plan.

Edit: Added an S to years
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Much more than a year, actually

Most coasters, if im not mistaking, take 2-3 years to plan and implement, sometimes 4.

Years is what I meant to say. People just assume that parks will "throw up" a record coaster after they see another park do the same. It doesn't work that way.

Exactly, I would assume this coaster has been in the plans since atleast 2002.

Exactly. But, Six Flags GADV is having this model specially fit this area, so it's going to be interesting in seeing if this record is broken, how they go about it. I beleive 100% that this record will be broken, because GADV has improved so much in the past two years, not just the overall atmosphere, but all the rides are up and running except B:TC, and that wil definitly be open by the 05 Season.

GADV's new Manager is fresh out of SFWOA , A Cedar Fair park. So, he's been improving our park greatly, by installing misters over the two major coasters, DJ's around the queves of lines, cleaning up the park majorly, repainting of rides, and now this 05 Monster Coaster.

GADV is in no way similiar to MM, and being the highest attended seasonal park; it needs this. GADV is slowly becoming one of the best coaster parks that there possibly could be, just not at the rate of CP.

So, all I'm saying is that if you still don't beleive there not going to do this, than beleive. Cause your DEAD wrong.

Just in case you haven't figured it out yet, the breaking of records doesn't necessarily mean that the ride will be better, and certainly doesn't come about because of a change in the quality of park management (just look at Magic Mountain). If anything, a smaller ride like Storm Runner is more attractive than a L:TH:B--while TTD has certainly been called an amazing coaster, a one-trick pony isn't enough to carry the weight of the park.

Oh, and SFWoA was a Six Flags park (hence the SF in the abbreviation), and ironically part of the problem with the park was that their level of customer service was horrible.

well whatever it is...i'm glad there will be a new coaster. honestly though i would rather see an amazingly unique ride then a record breaker...but i don't think that will happen.

One of the things cycling in my mind, is wondering how much the drop will spiral.

Even if the length of the ride we've been hearing IS correct, and the tophat IS only 300-350ish feet high, if they dont allow it to spiral on the way down, can you imagine that drop of 300+ feet just STRAIGHT down with only that 90-degree twist... IMAGINE the airtime!

It would be something unique to the ride without making it the tallest and the fastest. The only other one like it, Xcelerator, would be beat for drop/tower height, and i've been hearing a lot of people saying how much more fun TTD *might* be if the tower didnt do a complete spiral. *** Edited 8/16/2004 12:26:11 AM UTC by MForce2k***

To contribute to the thread: Perhaps SF has caught on that SFMM being the "record holder" park just isn't working for wahtever reason and they're going to pump the record breakers into the most attended park... seems smart to me!

Not contributing to thread: I find it interesting that RGR's post disappeared ... appears based on Jeff's posts, that I was right (maybe not in technical sense, but in remembering what was said in the forums).

I would like to thank Tekno, Jeff and TalonJosh for watchin' my back on that one. I owe ya guys a beer ;) That being said, Tekno, I will now be keeping my word ... for now. Peace out yos, it's been fun. *** Edited 8/16/2004 12:37:49 AM UTC by Impulse-ive***

I always got ya back, Brett! But can it be Jagermeister instead of Beer?;)

Just remember, you did say FOR NOW. Don't let that mean FOR EVER!

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Impulse-ive said:
To contribute to the thread: Perhaps SF has caught on that SFMM being the "record holder" park just isn't working for wahtever reason and they're going to pump the record breakers into the most attended park... seems smart to me!

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Keep in mind that Magic Mountain is still just second to Great Adventure when it comes to overall yearly attendance for the corporation, yet Magic Mountain's competition is much more fierce than any Great Adventure has to put up with year after year. The Disneyland Resort, Universal Studios Hollywood and Knott's Southern California Resort are within an hour and a half drive from Magic Mountain. Another two hour drive south you have SeaWorld Adventure Park, Legoland, San Diego Wild Animal Park and The World Famous San Diego Zoo. And that's not counting the other medium-sized non-major corporate owned parks that are scattered in between like Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, Scandia Park, Castle Park, Boomers, Adventure City, etc...

And it's not like Great Adventure hasn't gotten its good share of rides over the years. Medusa, Nitro, Superman Ultimate Flight aren't what people generally considered low-end attractions.

I know one thing for certain, this new Rocket will not top 400'. And I'll be a bit surprised if it tops 300' at all.

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kRaXLeRidAh said:

I know one thing for certain, this new Rocket will not top 400'. And I'll be a bit surprised if it tops 300' at all.

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Looking at the track layout, it's almost certainly going to be a launch into a top-hat, a descent and brakes. Now, if what you are saying is correct, the coaster will be making a launch into a < 300 foot top-hat. This seems pretty silly because, as people have pointed out before, the park has the Batman side of The Chiller. This is a 200 foot high launched coaster that sends you into a top-hat inversion and through a barrel roll before doing the same thing backwards. Spending a load of money on SLIGHTLY taller one-trick wonder that does something similar is plain stupid. Again, I'm not saying it's going to be 450, but I can't buy the theory that it will be under 300 feet. It just doesn't make sense.

Don't get your hopes up on this "mystery ride". We seen pics of the supports and tracks and we 99.9% sure that i'ts a Launch coasters with amazing heights, but don't get in line yet. Think about all the problems that CP had with TTD with the breakdowns and cable breaks and major downtime. Great Advenure is just building a major headache. Yes. CP fixed TTD and it is running pretty good BUT...with all of six flagls company debt and other cut backs with ride will just be a really tall CLoSED roller coaster. Look at the Deja' Vu's and Magic Mountain. All of it's roller coasters are running 1 or 2 trains, that is IF THEY ARE RUNNING. JUst thought I would share that.

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Kris Wempa said:

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kRaXLeRidAh said:

I know one thing for certain, this new Rocket will not top 400'. And I'll be a bit surprised if it tops 300' at all.

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Looking at the track layout, it's almost certainly going to be a launch into a top-hat, a descent and brakes. Now, if what you are saying is correct, the coaster will be making a launch into a < 300 foot top-hat. This seems pretty silly because, as people have pointed out before, the park has the Batman side of The Chiller. This is a 200 foot high launched coaster that sends you into a top-hat inversion and through a barrel roll before doing the same thing backwards. Spending a load of money on SLIGHTLY taller one-trick wonder that does something similar is plain stupid. Again, I'm not saying it's going to be 450, but I can't buy the theory that it will be under 300 feet. It just doesn't make sense.

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Uh. I don't think you got the gist of my post. I said that I'd be surprised if this new coaster topped 300 feet, which would mean that if it WERE higher than 300 feet, it WOULD most likely be a "launch-tophat-brakes" ride - seeing as it has less track length than even Storm Runner. This coaster will most likely be something similar to Storm Runner in terms of what it does. A launch, top-hat under 250 feet, and one or two ride elements which may consist of inversions, hills, or turns before it hits the brakes. And WHAT track layout are you talking about? Are there already footers in a giant U-shape that would indicate it would be a launch-tophat-brakes layout? NO.