CP new coaster

Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:46 AM
Ok looking at the webcam, it looks like this coaster will not go 420 ft in the air......they've already started putting the top hat inversion into place. :-(
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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:48 AM
Remember that the left side will feature a 270 degree spiraling drop so that will need a lot of tracking. I do not doubt that the coaster will be around 400 feet.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:50 AM
Um, there isnt an inversion on this ride, if you go to Virtual Midway, they have a pic of the top hat track, and it has the running rails on the top, with a support connector on the bottom.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:57 AM
any word on an annoucment yet ?

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:57 AM

Uh, I don't know where you're getting this from. Maybe you're getting the slanted supports mixed up with the track? Sometimes the web cams are blurry due to weather. And as Nessy said, there is no inverted top hat, and there are pictures to prove it.

This will be over 415ft tall. Jeff said this coaster would "end a long standing debate." CP would not build a L-TH-B if it wasn't going to break any major records.

And just S:TE 'only' goes 330ft. The STRUCTURE might be 415, but the coaster does not currently reach that height.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:10 AM

yes, by looking on virtual midway we see that it will be a non-inverting tophat.... and in this pic we see that the connector will be on the bottom.... now assume that this connector will be at the very apex of the tower.... and then look at the webcam and mentally extend those two angled supports up top until they meet in a triangle formation...that my friends, is pretty high.

don't get it? look at this pic i made (cut and paste url):

http://www.geocities.com/jdietrick12886/cp.jpg

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:25 AM

So....

CP's coaster: launch, up, down, brakes.

SFMM's Superman: launch, up, down, brakes.

Are you telling me that the only reason CP's ride counts as a coaster and SFMM's doesn't is that one is full circuit and one isn't? Seems to me the minute CP added Wicked Twister the "full circuit" argument was null and void.

Moosh

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:27 AM
Moosh - more important to me in the height record is that at no time on S:TE are you 415 feet in the air. If "Dragster" is 420 feet, everyone in every train gets to be that high.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:28 AM
Yea Moosh, I have to agree with you on that. Would people not mess with STE if they added a top hat that the ride didnt go through, and a connection between the emergancy brakes past the station? Since it would just basically be the same ride as CP's new ride, except it would valley every time.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:32 AM

Moosh- does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? To some, yes, but to most no. Honestly, I could care less if a park 2000 miles away has more coasters. I've always felt that way. Quality is not directly related to quantity in the coaster world.

But I do agree, the "full circuit" thing did seem to go out the window with WT.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:39 AM

We don't need more denail topics, do we? Rest assured. It'll be over 400 feet.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:46 AM

After you saying that before in so many words, I'm still surprised how many people don't buy it. But, I bet some people will still deny it after that! :(

I had fun on S:TE ...and it can only achieve a 315 foot height difference! With a full train it's MUCH less. With this thing probably pulling a 400 foot difference (The brake track doesn't seem that far off the ground!) I can't wait!

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:48 AM

Michael, that is probably one of the best things I have read on a coaster site in general for a while. People are getting to engrossed with the fact that a certian park has a really high number of coasters. In the end, does it matter? No. Look at Holiday World, they have 2 good woodies, and are people not flocking there because they dont have so many coasters? No, they like Raven and Legend, two very good, quality coasters.

Heh, I guess I am just one of the people that doesn't care if a park has __ number of coasters, but how good they are.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:44 AM
First of all, I never claimed that S:TE was not a coaster. It IS a rollercoaster, in the same way a shuttle loop is a coaster, or Wicked Twister is a coaster. I was merely pointing out that S:TE reaches 330ft. The structure reaches 415 ft. And the long standing debate I was refering to was in regard to the height.
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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:52 AM

precisely. once CP succumbed to the "shuttle is a coaster" thing with WT, that discussion was over.

but now the question is, say CP's ride is 410ft tall, but it actually goes that high.... who would rightfully claim the title?

THAT is the debate here

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:56 AM

I made a crappy little edit here. Now i made it to what i think it's Shortest possiblity would be. You can see it will be very close to 400ft. My guess is inbetween 400 and 375.

http://uploader.axsstudios.com/images/cam2_0000000001.jpg

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*** This post was edited by DLDude13 on 11/27/2002. ***

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:07 AM

JD-I can understand your concern, but I wouldn't worry about it. Jeff said it would "end a long standing debate." I doubt CP is dumb enough to not clearly be taller than 415, even if it means 418.

DLDude-I know I probably sound like a scratched record now, but to again quote Jeff (in THIS thread) "We don't need more denail topics, do we? Rest assured. It'll be over 400 feet."

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:09 AM
Nice pic, but you need to add another 50 feet;)

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:14 AM

Although this debate is tired out and annoying, and to mention it is deserving of being mauled to death by a pack of wild boars. I simply must speak my mind. In the words of CpNut S: T E IS NOT A COASTER!!!! IT WILL NEVER BE. I believe that S: T E is a thrill ride because look at the same models(tower of terror non disney) do you consider them a coaster? I consider it a thrill ride. There is no distinguishing inversion or any laterals. Do you consider "The Edge" which used to reside at sfgam a coaster? Because basically thats what it was without the launch. S T E is the s.s. super shot whilst the edge is an intamin giant drop.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:21 AM
Sorry... i havent been fallowing it much on Coasterbuzz.

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