CF Gutting KI's atmosphere just like CP

eightdotthree's avatar

Rob Ascough said:
It's no secret that Cedar Fair has a way of killing a park's atmosphere, and I can't believe some people can't see that.

Its a complete secret to me though because my definition of atmosphere is different than yours.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atmosphere
a surrounding or pervading mood, environment, or influence

To you thats trees and shade. To me its the energy the place radiates. For instance the TTD midway by your definition has no atmosphere. To me it does.

Differing opinions I suppose.


Oh, yeah! The topic!

I like trees. I like trees over my head and over the paths I walk in parks. I'm annoyed at CF's typical broad spans of concrete so the view of their precious rides from a half-mile distance isn't somehow obstructed. I like the pieces of DP that still look 'classic.' I salute WOF for keeping the tree-lined areas of the park as they were.

I've only boarded PKI's flyers once, shared my seat with a friend so she could ride with the rest of our group, never snapped my boat even once and hated on everyone else that could.

I've mourned the loss of classic rides at my current home park. VF dismantled CP's Bayern Kurve and replaced it with....umbrellas and picnic tables. Then a climbing wall. They replaced a FIERCE Schwarzkopf mouse with one of those goofy Arrow contraptions. Then there's my prior home park (CP--you name the dark ride) and two classic parks where I grew up that are entirely lost (Edgewater Park and Bob-lo Island). When it comes to losing things that will never be back, I'm a veteran. In many ways, I can understand Chuck's sentiments.

But but but? When you make and insist on statements like the ones he's made...boycotting parks, never going back over a single lost ride...you might as well slip on a T-shirt that says FLYING TOMATOES GO HERE. And when you go back on that word, then you should also expect to be called to task.

Just the way it is. *shrugs*

-CO


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eightdotthree's avatar
Or when you complain that Kings Island isn't doing anything but removing rides, then complain when they do, but don't do it "right".

Its crazy and its fun to talk about. Sorry.


It's crazy and fun to talk about, just like it's crazy and fun for someone like Chuck to talk about how he's unhappy with what his local park has done to turn his business away. And you know what? If he decided to stop giving the park his business, he not only has every right to complain about what they've done but also what they're doing- or in this case, not doing to get his business back. Sure he's jaded, but that doesn't mean his value as a critic has been diminished. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Of course, I don't believe in being a hyprocrite, and if you're going to boycott something, you lose credibility when you back down from your word. I didn't know that was the case- like I said, I skipped over certain parts of the conversation, discussion, crap storm, whatever you want to call it.

eightdotthree's avatar
Yeah. Its fun. So why the fight?

Trees are very nice.
Adding charm, shade and beauty.
Oh, the atmosphere.

A haiku by Ensign Smith


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Lord Gonchar's avatar
Trees necessary?
I say no, they really aren't.
Still good atmosphere.

A haiku retort by Gonch :)


Barren moonscapes have
a bit more variety
than some CF plans

-CO


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a_hoffman50's avatar
I like this peaceful
way of discussing affairs.
It is much nicer.
Haikus are easy
But sometimes they don't make sense
Refrigerator
Pete's avatar
All the pictures of KI show is what looks to be the beginning stages of a plaza for some type of new attraction. How is a construction site supposed to look? Give them time to finish and judge the final product!

I'm getting into this thread very late, but to all the people who criticize CF as creating barren wastelands, did you ever see an aerial photo of CP? Did you see just how many trees there are? Cedar Point has acres of shaded, tree lined areas that are bigger than some entire parks.

Do you notice how lush the TTD midway is now, after the landscaping has grown in? Do you notice how beautifully they integrated Maverick into Frontier Town? It already looks like it was there for years, even before the new landscaping grows in.

If CF brings the atmosphere of CP to the other parks, then they are doing a good thing. CP has just tons of atmosphere. Atmosphere to me is not sitting on a bench under a tree. Bright lights, big rides, laughter, the smell of food, the sound of games and the general spectacle of being at an amusement park is what creates the atmosphere. CP provides sensory overload in all those things, and that is what I love about the place. That is what provides the escape from the mundane everyday life. That is what an amusement park is all about.


I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

Oh look! There's a tree!
Twenty feet away, while the
sun toasts me in line...

-CO


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Lord Gonchar's avatar
I bought a Q-bot.
No line for me to toast in.
Waiting somewhere else.

;)


Q-bots at CP?
Can somebody tell me just
what's in Gonchar's pipe?

-CO


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Lord Gonchar's avatar
It's quite possible,
all that time in the hot sun
has ruined his mind.

:)


If CF did 'bots
I might cough up cash for them...
Duck! Here comes LostKause!


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Lord Gonchar's avatar
LOL! :)

I dunno. I still think this is pretty f'n aweome.

Just for reference, this is a tree. Still cool, but less awesome by a good margin. ;)


Much of the concrete at Cedar Point is born of necessity. With the size of crowds they get they would have people walking all over landscaping were the midways not designed the way they are.

I don't hear anyone complaining about Epcot Center and that is nearly entirely concrete pathways that happen to have a lake in the middle.

Cedar Point has plenty of beautiful areas. As much now as 30, 50, or 100 years ago? Of course not. And, to be frank, much of what they have eliminated needed to go anyway. The dogwood trees were a maintenance nightmare and posed allergy problems for many, many people.

But, considering the immensity that is the park I am astounded that they continue to make additions with as little damage as they do. In many cases many of their additions add to the beauty of the park. Camper Village is a good example. The bay was largely hidden with the old lighthouse area overgrown. Now, with the cottages, the bay is a gorgeous area to gaze out on. Teh same can be said for the relocation of the big wheel and the building of WT. Finally the beautiful lakefront is visible to in-park guests.

eightdotthree's avatar

wahoo skipper said:
I don't hear anyone complaining about Epcot Center and that is nearly entirely concrete pathways that happen to have a lake in the middle.

Or that Holiday World is covered in stinky black pavement and all their hand rails are mustard brown. *** Edited 3/31/2008 7:00:58 PM UTC by eightdotthree***


^^^What, I can't have both?
Not at a CF park, I guess.
Sigh. Nice concrete quilt.

-CO
(who reminds you, carats are SILENT)

*** Edited 3/31/2008 7:03:24 PM UTC by CoastaPlaya***


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