Cedar Point '07 Project

Aquatrax would be a nice addition.
ok so if they were obvious in the previous 2 cases what makes you think they would start tricking people now?

They aren't gonna mislead people simply because they want them to come back next year to ride the new thing.

Sidewindin' can be interpreted in many different ways, but if you asked 10 GP at Cedar Point who read the sign...at least 8 would say..."Oh that means there new rides goin upside-down dude!" or something to that effect.


Kyle Says: Diamondback was a lot of fun! Made his first time at Kings Island worth it all!


They aren't gonna mislead people simply because they want them to come back next year to ride the new thing.

I wonder what idiot is going to go.. "Hmm, CP put up a sign that said this, but they did that! OMG i'm NEVER coming back!"

Wow...

BTW: Kyle, I'm not from Michigan, and I HATE UofM.

I hate both schools so.

Kyle Fobe said:
ok so if they were obvious in the previous 2 cases what makes you think they would start tricking people now?

They aren't gonna mislead people simply because they want them to come back next year to ride the new thing.

Sidewindin' can be interpreted in many different ways, but if you asked 10 GP at Cedar Point who read the sign...at least 8 would say..."Oh that means there new rides goin upside-down dude!" or something to that effect.


First off, if you had read my post, you would see my point is that they either tell you what the ride is, or they don't tell you ANYTHING - no hints, nothing.

Second, the only "tricking" going on here with these signs is some of you tricking yourselves. These signs aren't hints to anything - they are simply in tune with the THEME of the area. After all, did you expect them to slap a generic "Construction. Please pardon our mess" in the WESTERN themed area of the park? Come on. Even Cedar Point has better theming ability than that.

I bet if you asked the GP what they thought of any of these signs, they would say one thing: "Something is being built over there". That is ALL the signs are meant to tell you. None of this "we're going to hint at it" crap because frankly, no one is going to give a damn.

The only CP "hints" you should think ANYTHING of are the ones that T&T give us on the CP Site Blog. Anything else is just wasted breath on your part.

Even with the T&T blog, take it with a heavy grain of salt. They don't refer to specific parts of the ride, just general observations. *** Edited 8/2/2006 7:25:14 PM UTC by UC***

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UC said:
After all, did you expect them to slap a generic "Construction. Please pardon our mess" in the WESTERN themed area of the park? Come on. Even Cedar Point has better theming ability than that.

I guess 1981 doesn't count. Because they didn't then. ;)


--Erich

^ Hmm... 1981 has ANY relevance to 2006? No.
Exactly, especially since theming of ANYTHING besides Disney in 1981 was considered virtually non-existant. The fact that ride even has a little jingle on it ("The Wildest River Ride Around!") is kitchsy enough to be considered wild-west like.

That sign is also testament to what I was saying before - they either tell you what the ride is, or they don't say anything at all.

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I would say that WWL was pretty well themed for a CP ride. It had a themed station, buildings, etc. and that was in 1982.

--Erich

lol WWL? Themed? Come on. You want to see a themed ride, go to Disney. WWL had a STATION, thats it. Other then that, it went thru a buncha woods. *** Edited 8/2/2006 7:48:22 PM UTC by SnooSnoo***
Something I think people should remember... if construction keeps pace, the ride would be complete by winter. Now what would they be doing in the time between then and opening?? To me it sounds like they started so early because they may put this think inside a building, much like the Aquatrax. Also, you can see many of the supports appear to have a lattice structure, which could possibly hold more than one section of track, which would indicate a compact design for inside a building (much like Atlantis).

As much as i DONT want to see an Aquatrax, I'm leaning towards it

^Well, then you gotta lean wit it, rock wit it. I am thinking that this will be an Aquatrax as well. Supports support the theory.
When CP puts out signs, they are either obvious, or mean nothing. They were obvious with MF, obvious with TTD, and not obvious with this.

That is your post, you stated that with MF and TTD they put obvious signs up...which to be honest I don't fully remember that many...and this one there not...?

How do you know there not obvious with this? Granted they aren't lke the White Water Landing Sign back in 1981, and I am not professional advertiser, but generally I would think the park would want to stir up hype for something they are building in the future.

The best way to do this would be to place misleading signs?

No, I think the best way to do that would be to put up signs around the area, most, specifically pointed towards the railroad tracks where a lot of people would see them...stating that theres a new ride coming thats stirring up a whole lot of this and sidewindin a whole lot of that. That's not a coincidence, people aren't stupid, they know that CP builds the tallest fastest thing almost every year and they want them to think that about this ride too.

And i've seen a lot of General Construction signs at Cedar Point...most notably for Top Thrill Dragster a few years back.

My point is that while signs should be taken with a grain of salt, they sure seem to be hinting around at something that will take the people by storm. Of course it could be a ploy and just be a family ride they are overhyping, which is fine, but past instances reveal something else...

Oh well only time will tell I guess.

By the way, I was referring to the guests at cedar point...not the workers...and even then I don't mean everyone is from Michigan just a lot of them.

Kyle

P.S.

Exactly, especially since theming of ANYTHING besides Disney in 1981 was considered virtually non-existant. The fact that ride even has a little jingle on it ("The Wildest River Ride Around!") is kitchsy enough to be considered wild-west like.

This bugs me because look at Corkscrew for example, for it's time that was a pretty well themed attraction.

The double carousel at Great America also was a great theming job for it's time. *** Edited 8/2/2006 9:00:53 PM UTC by Kyle Fobe***


Kyle Says: Diamondback was a lot of fun! Made his first time at Kings Island worth it all!

Do Carousels count? They are all themed. Frome the beginning of Carousel time.
also the frontier section of great adventure was themed pretty good too.

ID does look like an aqua trax coaster to me too.

From the hints:

"two and two together"

Could this be two types of rides -- water and roller coaster -- put together with two different tracks?

"Sidewindin'"

Could this be the fact that they will be very near each other... or winding side by side as they make their way through the track?

... and seriously, how does "sidewindin'" make the general public think of a ride that goes upside down? A "sidewinder" is a snake which is known for... well, let's ask Dictionary.com what it is known for:

"A small rattlesnake (Crotalus cerastes) of the southwest United States and Mexico that moves by a distinctive lateral looping motion of its body and has two hornlike scaly projections above its eyes."

Lateral is, of course, not upside down.

Also, didn't Cedar Point take out a water ride for this? Water Rides are family attractions, so why not replace it with another water ride?

Finally, an Aquatrax coaster has a low capacity. Making two of them would be a way that Cedar Point could up the capacity enough to make it a worthy investment.

Cedar Point isn't putting up their signs for any reason other than to lead to hints about the ride and get everyone talking. I've been randomly following the pictures because I like seeing rides get built, and I didn't want to come up with anything until I knew more... now that I've seen enough, that's my educated guess. It could be wrong. But I'll wait until there is another clue before I decide that.

I honestly doubt that many people know that a sidewinder is a snake. Though I could be wrong....anyway...all coasters presently built named sidewinder go upside down...check it out on rcdb.com...you have sidewinder a boomerang at HersheyPark, and sidewinder a launched shuttle at Six Flags Elitch Gardens. So that leads me to believe that the coaster will go upside down.

A lateral looping motion could be many inversions...like a corkscrew...or better yet an inline roll? I could be totally off but that's what that means to me...or also a helix.

Anyway could it be both a watercoaster and have inversions? I don't see why not...also it could be the tallest fastest water coaster...who knows...all im saying is that it's good to keep our minds open and those signs can mean a lot of diffferent things to different people obviously.


By the way, I was referring to the guests at cedar point...not the workers...and even then I don't mean everyone is from Michigan just a lot of them.

Who said I work there? I might work there next season, but i'm just a visitor. And there is more like a 50/50 ratio of Ohio/Michigan people.

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Kyle Fobe said:
I honestly doubt that many people know that a sidewinder is a snake.

Funny, this seems like something everyone would know to me.

This is all very interesting speculation, and I for one am baffled. I would prefer it not to be an aquatrax, and still hold out hope for the new proto type train. I understand the logic that the supports and track are too close to the ground, but also know trenching the area around the layout would solve for the problem. I also understand Talon and a number of rides, too close to the ground used this very technique. It makes sense to build the ride first, then work the ground and complete landscaping later (call me crazy).

The early start time is also interesting. I do not think a building is going to be built, because they could just as easily close DT and use that building.

I think we are seeing the station and back end of the ride being constructed now,with the taller sections coming in later.

Everyone seems to forget or neglect some of the truly HUGE footers on site, and those would not be needed for an aquatrax.

Tom


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