During the ACE Preservation confrence, a park representitive who's name eludes me right now was asked about the plans for season passes next year and how it would all work with the paramount aquisition. To my suprise, he said that we may know as early as next week as to what's going on for next year.
<EDIT> By the way, the PR was from Valleyfair and ACE was there Friday August 4th. </EDIT> *** Edited 8/7/2006 3:54:22 AM UTC by Jason Hammond***
Marketing, not Public Relations. For some odd reason they use different "labels" at Valleyfair then most of the rest of the parks in the chain.
It didn't happen to be Bill Von Bank did it? He is in charge of Media Relations for VF! Then there is McKenzie Kelly who is the Marketing Manager and then there is Laura (who's last name escapes me) who is the third member of the marketing team.
No, it's just marketing, of which PR is a group within. Lee Alexakos, who was the director of marketing got boosted to corporate VP of marketing, and the guy that used to post here as Old Timer Tim is now the director of marketing for CP. The PR sub-department is three guys, headed by Robin Innes.
I didn't say Public Relations. I couldn't remember his title, that's why I said, "Park Representitive." I figured regardless of his title, he would be a representative of the park. *** Edited 8/7/2006 6:36:26 PM UTC by Jason Hammond***
I hope season pass prices don't go up too much if they plan to include the Paramount parks admission with a CF season pass or they offer an option for a lower priced pass that is only good at the park you get it at. I got my first park season pass ever this year to Dorney and I thought it was a great value at $96 with parking included and hope it will be priced at a similar level next year.
With the exception of the Cedar Point-Geauga Lake thing, I can tell you that inter-company season pass use is not so high that it would drive up season pass prices. I remember going to PKD with my PKI pass a few years ago, and they had a paper form where they wrote down pass numbers. At noon there were five or six other numbers there. Ditto for my trip to Dorney that same year, using my CP pass.
^ Try taking your PKD pass to PGA they didn't even know what to do. I have also seen the same thing at Dorney too. Knotts has had a 1 page list of CF passholders in the park the two times that I have visited.
Also for SF they always scan my pass but it never works when used away from the home park. Thay never seem to care though because they proceed to let me in everytime.
The WOF-VF use seems to be the busiest of the CF:LP parks I have been to. Everytime I go to VF there is also at least 10 or more WOF passes that have been through before me that day. I know a lot of VF passes go to WOF as well.
I used my PKI pass at PGA several times a couple of years ago. No problem and they looked at it and let me in with no problems. I think it even had the parking number on it or I mentioned I had a parking pass and they did not charge me for parking either. I think I rode Stealth 7 times in a row on that visit.
Hmm i wonder which park will turn out being the flagship. I know it will always be Cedar Point, but Knott's, Canada's Wonderland, & King's Island also bring in the Hudge crowds. I see PCWo becoming one of the top parks, same with PKI. and I hope with my CWo Season pass next year i can still get into KI.
Does being the "flagship" really have any bearing on anything at all? I get the feeling it's really a term mostly made up for enthusiast's sake. Probably by enthusiasts, as well. I mean, if we're basing this just on annual attendance than PKI would be ahead of CP and wouldn't PCW be way up there as well?
Still though, I'm sure the people running the parks are *really* concerned about such arbitrary, useless nonsense...
Joe21498 said:^ Try taking your PKD pass to PGA they didn't even know what to do. I have also seen the same thing at Dorney too. Knotts has had a 1 page list of CF passholders in the park the two times that I have visited.
At the other PPs, they were at least PLEASANT when they're unaware of how to deal with SPs from other parks... ;)
CF has always dealt well with my Knott's SPs (oh, and the one time I got one from MiA)... :)
This whole thing is *really* interesting to me,esp. after the GL acquisition and the strange policies/pricing of the CF passes just with the addition of the ONE park...LOL!
*** Edited 8/9/2006 4:35:42 PM UTC by rollergator***
i was at both Cedar Point and Kings Island yesterday and believe me Cedar Point crowd was twice as big as KI. Cedar Point is and will always be the flagship.
Ok, that was for one day. How does that make CP's attendance higher for an entire operating season? Considering that KI had a higher attendance last year than CP. I'm not arguing the fact that CP is the flagship park, as Cedar Fair stated after the acquisition of Paramount Parks. *** Edited 8/9/2006 4:47:02 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer***
Kings Island also had a longer operating season than Cedar Point last year.
The truth is, Kings Island and Cedar Point are about equal in terms of drawing power, but Kings Island has more people who live closer in their ADI. For years, if you looked over the AB listings of park attendance, Kings Island and Cedar Point traded off the top slot among seasonal parks, and the usual difference was very slight, and probably can be explained by variations in weather and operating schedule.