Cedar Fair and B&Ms
See what happens when I leave my computer for a few minutes? A co-worker of mine was reading through this thread and had no idea people could get so worked up over this type of thing. "Isn't a good coaster a good coaster, no matter who the stupid designer is"? Leave it to the "GP" to bring it home once again. ;)
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It takes about 3-4 years of planning a new roller coaster, it's not something you do a year in advance...
B & M, may get pretty much respect from enthusiast, but it's nothing like the respect they get in the buisness.
John Peck: You even said that after Kumba and Montu?
Heretic! Heretic! Get your pitchforks and torches!
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What? Someone didn't like Kumba? Let me at em ... (oh wait, that's a lot of people ... )
Burn em anyway! (Or build a bridge out of 'er!)
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Legendary said:
Heh, he said boughten.
Joe, who has nothing to contribute to this thread
Joe, if you don't think an *OT chuckle* IS a contribution, how on Earth can you stand reading through ALL my *meaningless* posts...;)
I guess the ones I really don't like are the Batman Inverts and the stand ups excluding Georgia Scorcher
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Wickedtwister180 said:
What I mean is all of their designs seem to use the same inversions in roughly the same order, for instance most of their coasters that contain inversions dive straight into a vertical loop at the beginning, a lot of them do twin corkscrews, all their stand ups have dive loops, all of their stand ups have inclined loops, all of their stand ups have corkscrews.
Well a lot of Arrow's have double corkscrews, a uh lot of Vekoma's seem to have sea serpents, a lot of Intamin's have overbanked turns, a lot of Schwarzkopf's have vertical loops. And trust me, a lot of coasters dive straight into vertical loops.
And no, Iron Wolf doesn't have a inclined loop or diving loop.
The same order? Name five.
Paramount hasn't gotten an Intamin in a long time, what's your point?
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S00perGRL, There are a lot of B&M coasters with the same ganeric layout, 5 of these would be:
MESUSA WEST
MEDUSA EAST
KUMBA
SCREAM
SUPERMAN at WBMW
and SUPERMAN KRYPTON COASTER
there are more with roughly the same layout, and I do know that all arrows, schwarzkopfs, and vekomas have a lot of the same layouts. But wickedtwister180 was talking about B&M!
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Montu001 said:
"Yes, CP could also need a B&M, or atleast a coaster that goes upsidown, because CP only has 3 inverting coasters out of 16!"
See, I still don't get that argument. Blackpool has 11 coasters, and what, one inversion in the whole park?
Still looks like a pretty good park to me.
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B&M!
The only coasters with the same layout (above) are Kumba and Medusa East. Scream! may also have that layout, but that's still pretty much unknown right now (as far as I know anyway).
Some major differences:
-Medusa West has a sea serpent, corkscrews are not interlocking
-WBMW's Superman has an immelman, an airtime hill, and no midcourse brakes
-Superman Krypton Coaster does not have a diving loop and features a midcourse helix/drop
-Kraken has a second vertical loop instead of two flatspins
-Raptor does not have a dive loop/immelman
-Montu has a batwing and a second vertical loop (not two flatspins)
As has been explained before, B&M's often follow similar inversion order due to speeds necessary to accomplish the maneuvers. There are *plenty* of differences between rides, as well as exceptions to the "rules" (like Alpengeist).
-Nate
*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 on 12/20/2002. ***
Montu001 said:
Yes, CP could also need a B&M, or atleast a coaster that goes upsidown, because CP only has 3 inverting coasters out of 16!
Why does every no-clue person wants to invert on a roller coaster? Some of the best themeparks in the world haven't got a single inversion. As PT300 said before, Blackpool only has one ride that inverts, an Arrow shuttle loop. Europa-Park hasn't got any inversion rides at all, and Phantasialand only has one inversion ride, a classic pukeride. It's not the inversion that make a park top-quality, it's the entourage, the theming and the rides. A non-inversion ride can be just as good (or even better) as an inversion ride!
Speedy said:
BTW, Knotts is looking (or they might have chosen one by now) at 3 manufacturers for their invert: Intamin, B&M, and a new company that sprung off of vekoma, kumBac. Does anyone know anything about KumBac coasters?
The company you are referring to is called KumbaK Coasters. It has been founded by four engineer who got fired when Vekoma went bankrupt. I've spoken to them, but unfortunately I'm not at liberty to give you any details. I can only tell you that you may expect great things from them, because they form a group of very, very talented young men!
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