Canadas Wonderland 2008 B&M Rumor!!!

Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:48 PM
DantheCoasterman's avatar But if I go to Canada in....July 2007, will I need a passport?
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Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:06 PM
If you are flying, you either need a passport or proof you have applied for one:

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2007/jun/86206.htm

If you are driving, you do not need a passport, but you will need a government-issued ID with a photo (driver's license will do) and some form of additional identification. The government suggests a certified birth certificate. It's probably no coincidence those are the same two pieces of ID you need to apply for a passport.

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Sunday, June 24, 2007 7:34 AM
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BogeyMon said:

If you are driving, you do not need a passport, but you will need a government-issued ID with a photo (driver's license will do) and some form of additional identification. The government suggests a certified birth certificate. It's probably no coincidence those are the same two pieces of ID you need to apply for a passport.


That is only half right. You do need a "government-issued ID" such as a drivers license... but that is all you need. I was just in Canada, and they only require a license either entering Canada or returning to the USA.

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Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:49 PM
A US paasport expires in 10 years. Average out the $100 for 10 years and it equals $10/yr. Its well worth it if anyone decides to travel within that time frame. I always bring it everytime I cross the canadian border. It saves me from other potential hassles.

You won't see me coming...

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Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:04 PM
I have to bring us back on topic...

Hopefully CW Mania doesn't mind I link this, but in this set of Photos you'll see the early signs of construction beginning at Wonderland. It's very exciting.

For those who haven't visited the park, the stakes are visible all over the area directly behind Orbiter, between Sledgehammer and Minebuster. Some may remember that was the location Paramount had originally planned to move Flight of Fear to.

Enjoy!

http://www.cwmania.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=123&pos=1

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Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:14 PM
Thanks for the pics. PCWCoasterBoy but more importantly thanks for getting folks back to the topic.
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Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:28 PM
I think there's no predicting what company Cedar Fair will or won't use anymore. I thought after Power Tower's rough start and VertiGo, they'd be done with S&S. Nope. Then after the "train left out in the rain" squabble with Mantis and the reprogramming arguments on Mantis and Raptor, added to B&M selling an alternate Mantis design to Kentucky Kingdom a year later, there'd be no more B&Ms at CF parks. The result of that: Talon, Silver Bullet, Hydra, Patriot. And Intamin? Need I elaborate? After the last seven years of drama from them, there stands Maverick running like a Swiss watch (knock wood). So anything is possible. I could see them driven enough to snatch the "biggest coaster in Canada" claim that La Ronde ran with in 2006. Wonderland doesn't need more loops & tricks, they need hills & height. Kinda like when Great Adventure really needed to build Nitro, y'know?

And Dominator isn't going anywhere, there's no good reason to take that ride outta Geauga Lake. Even if the park slims down it does need a modern steel coaster to headline the package, and that's the best one they've got and it's in a good central location. If they're still looking to cut back on the expanse of operations and the electric bill, next smartest thing to come out should be Headspin.

Jason, I heard long ago that B&M did enter a bid on Millennium Force, after their initial resistance to a 300-footer. But it was something like $50 million - almost as if they didn't want to get it.

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Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:43 PM
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Seahawk & the Wave said:
added to B&M selling an alternate Mantis design to Kentucky Kingdom a year later, there'd be no more B&Ms at CF parks.

haha what *** Edited 6/26/2007 9:43:29 PM UTC by matt.***

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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:25 PM
That pic makes it look like this rumor might be true.

I hope its something I can re-ride so I can become one of those dopes that rides a coaster like 5000 times. A really good hyper like Nitro or a really good floorless like Dominator would be great. No 1 trick ponys.

Whatever they decide to go with, it better be a people eater(Unless it's sub par like most of the coasters presently at the park). With the lackluster line up of coasters they currently have, this new coaster if exciting will attract EVERYONE that visits the park.


Top 5 wood: 1.Hades 2.Voyage 3.Boulder Dash 4.Avalanche 5.Legend
Top 5 Steel: 1.Maverick 2.Fire Dragon 3.Batman 4.Raptor 5.Ice Dragon

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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:55 PM
I was at the park yesterday and there's actual digging going on back there now. The digging eemed to be in the side of a hill that's next to the Ampitheatre.

There's a large trailer set up behind The Orbiter with the sign "site office" on the door. A ride employee verified that they're building a coaster for next year but didn't know what it was going to be.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:50 PM

Seahawk & the Wave said:
And Intamin? Need I elaborate? After the last seven years of drama from them, there stands Maverick running like a Swiss watch (knock wood).

Well, a Swiss watch that had to have its heartline yanked out, anyway . . .


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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:17 PM
Cropsey, lets see some pics!!

I gotta make it out to PCW soon. I gotta get my IJ credit and see this construction.


Top 5 wood: 1.Hades 2.Voyage 3.Boulder Dash 4.Avalanche 5.Legend
Top 5 Steel: 1.Maverick 2.Fire Dragon 3.Batman 4.Raptor 5.Ice Dragon

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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:38 PM

Jason Hammond said:
^Wouldn't be a B&M.

What are Raptor and Mantis?

I don't remember the exact quote so someone correct me if I'm wrong. At the CoasterMania Q&A, Dick said they have gone with Intamin for the past few projects, because B&M tend not to want to build coasters with custom layouts. I think they definatly strayed from that thinking with Tatsu. I'm interested to see what B&M turns out in the next few years. *** Edited 6/17/2007 5:04:23 PM UTC by Jason Hammond***


Notice how I said that CF prefers Intamin & Chance Morgan for their hyper coaster projects?

Sure CF has done good business with B&M in the past for stand ups & inverts but Intamin & Chance Morgan have always been their preferred manufacturer when it comes to hypers.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:50 PM

Notice how I said that CF prefers Intamin & Chance Morgan for their hyper coaster projects?


When has Intamin built a hyper for CF. They have built Giga, rocket, impulse, and terra coasters but no hypers. *** Edited 6/27/2007 11:51:14 PM UTC by Coasterkid200***


Timbers crew 08

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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:01 PM
matt.'s avatar MF is close enough, the only difference is the arbitrary height difference.

Anyway basing all of this speculation on past projects probably won't work very well, the last hyper Morgan built for CF was nearly 10 years ago, wasn't it?

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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:18 PM
^9 years, Mamba will be 10 years old next season.
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Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:24 PM
matt.'s avatar 9 years....nearly 10 years...yeah.
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Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:16 AM

BamBam36 said:
Cropsey, lets see some pics!!

I gotta make it out to PCW soon. I gotta get my IJ credit and see this construction.


No pics but I'm sure if you keep an eye out at cwmania.com they'll have some up soon!

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Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:54 PM
^^yeah I know 9 is close to ten, but you made it sound like you wanted someone to correct you, so I obliged. ;)
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Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:01 PM
matt.'s avatar I speak in rhetoricals when I should be just stating things as plain fact. ;)

Then again I also state opinions the same way, hoping I don't get chastised for not putting "IMO" at the end of every single opinion I express.

IMO.

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