Canadas Wonderland 2008 B&M Rumor!!!

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:16 PM
The good part is Morgan.
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Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:48 PM
rollergator's avatar ^The good TRACKWORK is Morgan. I give them alot of credit for that. However, it's *completely* unlike any of the other Morgan hypers in this country. Of course, the rest are all on "flat level land". If they were left to run cleanly through the MCBs, I think they'd ALL provide good air on the finale bunnies.

Those trains (which I love like a backseat ride on JackRabbit) are most definitely better than *either* Morgan trains OR Arrow trains.

/Imagines those trains on Maggie and drools...snaps back to reality.

Even if it turns out to be B&M, you could get something along the lines of SFoG's monster...

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:53 PM
According to this article, nobody is correct.


As the first rational step as we move towards full WHTI implementation, DHS intends to end the routine practice of accepting oral declarations alone at land and sea ports of entry. On Jan. 31, 2008, U.S. and Canadian citizens will need to present either a WHTI-compliant document or a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, plus proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate. DHS also proposes to begin alternative procedures for U.S. and Canadian children at that time.



At a later date to be determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security in consultation with the Secretary of State, the departments will implement the full requirements of the land and sea phase of WHTI. The implementation date will be determined based on a number of factors, including the progress of actions undertaken by the Department of Homeland Security to implement the WHTI requirements and the availability of WHTI compliant documents on both sides of the border. DHS and DOS expect the date of full WHTI implementation to be in the summer of 2008. The precise implementation date will be formally announced with at least 60 days notice.

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:33 PM
Morgan makes terrible hypers. I have been on Wild Thing and Steel Force. Both sub par hypers.

B&Ms are good, but most of them have brakes throughout.(Goliath @ La ronde, Raging Bull, Silver Star)

I would love to see Wonderland get something like Nitro. Nitro is awsome.


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Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:20 PM
Hey I enjoy Mamba. That said I haven't been on any Hyper yet except Mamba.
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Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:55 PM
Evil Zucchini - That link only talks about a photo ID and proof of citizenship, not a passport by Jan. 31st 2008. For an easier border crossing a photo ID and proof of citizenship is recommended already anyways.
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Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:38 PM
Haven ridden all of the US Morgan hypers (WildThing, Steel Force, Mamba, Steel Eel and Phantom's Revenge) I can say that they are all pretty coasters, but other than Mamba and Phantom's Revenge the rest of the crop are pretty mediocre.
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Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:58 PM
I say go with an Intamin. Having ridden Phantom, SF, Mamba, AC, Nitro, Maggie, RB, MF, and all 3 SROS's I am under the impression that Intamin's the way to go. They blew me away with every hyper they have made. Morgan is alright same with B&M but man what Intamin can put together is amazing. *** Edited 6/22/2007 12:58:48 AM UTC by OP AWESOME***
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Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:43 PM
^Yes, but will he think that he needs to put OTSR on his hypers now since that seems to be the fad with the latest Intamin rides?
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Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:46 PM
bobthecoasterguy's avatar I sure hope not. The OTSR just aren't as much fun as the lapbars, although they are better at accomodating people. The B&M hypercoaster restraints (Nitro or RB) seem to be more forgiving than the Intamin's, and from all the reviews of Goliath at SFoG, they could certainly put in something of that magnitude.

--Erich

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:52 PM
Put another Goliath from SFOG and they will surely have a winner.

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Friday, June 22, 2007 2:59 PM
Actually CP Rules, the WHTI includes a rule requiring a passport or other secure document. So when it is talking about full WHTI implementation, that would mean that they are talking about a passport requirement, as my second excerpt mentions. *** Edited 6/22/2007 6:59:59 PM UTC by Evil Zucchini***
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Friday, June 22, 2007 5:42 PM
I was in Niagara Falls earlier this week. Was hanging out in the older of the two casinos and it was super dead. Talked a bartender and he says it's the slowest it's been in the 10 years he worked there. He also said they believe it's a combination of two things-

1. Exchange rate is really bad, it's around $1.05 on the US dollar.

2. People aren't sure what the deal is with the border because it's changed so many times. Crossing the border appears to be a hassle so they won't bother.

After hearing what he said and reading this thread, it's pretty clear that everyone is really confused as to what you need and when you'll need it if you intend to cross the border.

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Friday, June 22, 2007 7:30 PM
I'm not really sure why people don't have passports? What's the problem with just getting one in case you need it? Especially since it's obvious you're going to need one to travel anywhere, just go get one.
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Friday, June 22, 2007 8:16 PM
Its because they are 100 dollars that you don't have to spend if you aren't planning on going anywhere far.
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Friday, June 22, 2007 10:13 PM
Well, then they don't really have much to complain about when they can't travel then. :)
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Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:29 AM
matt.'s avatar

halltd said:
I'm not really sure why people don't have passports?

For your typical American the idea of going to Canada is about as exotic as going to Mars. It may be a bit different for coaster enthusiasts near the border but flitting off to another country isn't part of the culture like it would be for people in other parts of the world.

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Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:39 AM
^Yes but going state-to-state over here is like going country hopping over in the EU. Shoot some states are bigger than several countries over there combined.
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Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:44 AM
The wait for passports is now around three months between application and delivery. The situation isn't much different for Canadians wanting to visit the U.S., but their passports are only good for five years and are about as expensive.

Exotic as going to Mars? I'm not sure I know anyone over the age of 10 who hasn't been to Canada.

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Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:46 PM
matt.'s avatar What percentage of U.S. citizens have visited Canada? I don't know if there's a way to find out but I'm guessing it's not an especially large number.

Of course if you live in MI, NY, VT, PA, or similar states, that number would be higher.

The point still stands, traveling out of country for people in the US is very different from people traveling out of country in Europe or wherever.

*** Edited 6/23/2007 5:53:56 PM UTC by matt.***

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