BREAKING! The Bat Flies Again at Kings Island! IT IS A WING COASTER!

Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:50 PM

Dude seriously. It's an invert. As it has been every time I've said so since April.

Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:50 PM

Not sure why it's hard to understand that B&M Inverted Coaster installations didn't go down in number because of lack of popularity or outdatedness, but rather a lack of places that needed/wanted them.

You can't sell something when everyone who wants one has one.

Last edited by Lord Gonchar, Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:50 PM
Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:07 PM

Especially thinking that the Cedar Fair parks that choose Vekoma SLC's instead of B&M inverts don't really have the option to get one. Kings Island had neither.

Last edited by Tyler Boes, Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:08 PM
Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:19 PM

Tekwardo said:

Dude seriously. It's an invert. As it has been every time I've said so since April.

Yep. If you go read through the Kings Island 2014 thread, we (the forums in general) had B&M Inverted and the name Banshee pinned down within 16 hours of the park opening for the season.

If wishes count, many of us were saying the park needed the 2014 addition to be an Invert as far back as New Year's Day.

Which is exactly why I don't see the point in trying to be silly or play games or create decoys with the enthusiast crowd 7 months later.

Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:20 PM

But it's 90s tech! Just like intimidator and behemoth and diamondback and leviathan and Shambala...

Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:23 PM

...and the Lebanese Thunder Fist...

Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:26 PM

And just because I'm so close to gloat mode, I knew about it last March during my HWN planning. So Nya!

Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:29 PM

That is True, During the Paramount days KI didn't have the option to build B&M's due to a loyalty clause, or something like that. In fact that only two Paramount Parks able to get them were Carowinds and PGA

Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:31 PM

I don't know if I buy the loyalty clause myth. Anytime I hear it, I think it sounds made up.

Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:36 PM

Exclusivity clauses are a very real thing. Just ask Disney and KUKA.

Last edited by Tekwardo, Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:38 PM
Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:43 PM

Isn't The Loyalty Clause the sequel where Tim Allen makes all the elves swear their devotion to him after purging the suspect from the ranks of the Nationalist Socialist North Pole Party and declaring himself Santa-For-Life?

Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:58 PM

Exclusivity is real, and means I'm the only park in my "geographic market" that can have one. This definitely happens with rides...

"Loyalty" - in the sense that I get a discount for being a repeat customer....may also be real in the sense that it exists...but I don't think I buy that it happens in the rides marketplace. That's more for groceries...

IMO. ;~)

Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:19 PM

Lord Gonchar i do see your point about only the coaster nerds caring this much about the announcement, and it's a small percent of population. Having said that, they build the coasters to bring folks to the park, GP or nerds, so surely the park wants to unveil it the best way possible for maximum impact (more visitors). What i'm trying to say is this - the new coaster brings more visitors - the park even predicts the increased visitor numbers - so GP goes to park due to new coaster, so the proper unveiling of said coaster would be important to the park -and to us coincidentally.

If we are the only one's that care, why not make it fun for the ones that care about your product? I'd still maintain that even to the GP, the element is mystery is a good thing. Companies have been keeping their new developments under wraps in all sorts of industries (Apple, anyone?) for various reasons, why should coasters be any different? It creates buzz, for any product - however small, is better than no buzz

Looking forward to 10pm to find out what all the buzz is about!

Last edited by HamptonRoadsRider, Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:23 PM
Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:33 PM

As to the argument that an inverted is 1990s technology, it shouldn't escape notice that a massive chunk of the consistently highest-rated coasters out there essentially utilize 1920s technology.

Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:37 PM

ALL coasters use 300 year old technology... gravity

Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:43 PM

Can't wait to see how the funeral for SOB turns out tonight.

Anyone here have anything to add to the eulogy?

Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:59 PM

DavidW said:

ALL coasters use 300 year old technology... gravity

Methinks gravity has been around a little bit longer than that :)

Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:04 PM

When was the Law of Gravity passed?

Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:05 PM

Marvin Miller said:

If this is the next King's Island coaster, why would they use the exact trains used for GateKeeper. The fronts on both the one above and on GateKeeper are a perfect match. It looks like they just repainted it.

Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:08 PM

Early Diamondback materials often featured recycled Behemoth photos.


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