BREAKING! The Bat Flies Again at Kings Island! IT IS A WING COASTER!

Speak for yourselves. When I get married, I'm definitely trying out the wing rider.

I wonder what the height requirement will be, though. I'm not sure it qualifies as a family attraction.

;)

I've yet to ride a Wingrider, but I hope to sometime soon...

I hope to never ride a Lebanese thunder fist....

Thank the Maker Knoebels doesn't market to you RCMAC :) Not being mean but In my 8 visits in 12 years, I've never had a bad time. In fact I use it as a central point to other PA and NE parks. To me KFT would just be a bonus on a already awesome park. :)

Touchdown said:

Nice try, but I doubt KI would use the layout of Gatekeeper, shots of Diamondback, and gibberish in the descriptions of "ride information, track layout, and statistics."

Did you see the letters FPO on GateKeeper's layout? That meant "For Position Only," meaning that that picture will be replaced later. The same goes for the other pictures.

Tekwardo said:

I really want to see you ride a Lebonese thunder fist.

I thought the Ohio state legislature had banned that.

Lord Gonchar said:

There's no doubt it's exciting for us. That doesn't translate to it being exciting for everyone. The same way a fake webpage generated 10 pages of discussion here, but it didn't make the news in any capacity. No one cares like we do.

There's a larger, encompassing theme here of the importance of the enthusiast community and why the parks bother wasting their time with us.

Paula over at Holiday World put a lot of teasers up on the blog with double meanings and what not in the months leading up to the announcement of the Voyage. If I recall correctly, she even contributed to the discussions we were having about what might be coming. What KI is doing seems to me to be similar to what Paula did.

Lord Gonchar said:

Yeah, you're not marketing this to the family in any way...

It's not a family attraction...

This is a big time ride....

It will have the same effect on the park based solely on it's stature.

Wait a minute. Are you saying that a non-family ride will generate excitement and likely increase attendance? Given some peoples views on this site I can't believe they are letting you get away with such blasphemy! Everyone knows that coasters are over rated and parks should focus on nice rides that grandma can go on.

James Whitmore said:

Question: If a park was completely open about their future plans years in advance, would they lose business in the year(s) prior to the big project opening with guests saying "Let's skip the park this year and go next year when the new thing opens"? Thoughts?

I don't think it matters. The Cleveland sports teams say that they will have a better product "next year," and people still go to their games :)

Again, I don't think they have to be open, but it looks like they are going through way too much effort hiding next years plans when they've already been leaked outside of their control. If the website is a decoy, then that's just another example of them going out of their way to hide whatever plans are in place.

I think a very small number of would be park guests would postpone their trip for the following year for next years attraction and in the end, if they go, doesn't the park get their dollars anyway?

~Rob

By this time tomorrow we will all know the details about the new coaster.

By this time on Friday some will have their opinions and be complaining about a ride that isn't even build yet.

And by this time on Saturday a lucky few will be enjoying some ERT time on the Beast.

I'm strange, I plan for second or third year visits for new attractions and try to avoid first year mass lines. Of course throw all this out the window because the park is literally less than two miles away and I can plan around crowds.

Another thing that's weird to me is the night time announcement. For setting purposes? Can't figure this out. Seems to me you'd have the announcement AM and start selling shirts, shot glasses etc. all day!

23.5 hours :)

HeyIsntThatRob? said:

I think a very small number of would be park guests would postpone their trip for the following year for next years attraction and in the end, if they go, doesn't the park get their dollars anyway?

Another issue is that if you are too open about what you are doing, then your competitors could outdo you. If you invest $20+ million on a coaster to be the biggest and the best, you don't want to tell the other parks and have them open one at the same time that is bigger than yours.

And yes, I know, Cedar Point is not in competition with Magic Mountain.

bjames said:

913girl said:

Can someone explain the gravy thing to a noob?

Oh I thought you were new but I didn't check. Welcome, now Carrie isn't the only female!

Or Bonnie, or Lori, or April, or Maverick, or Jo, etc etc

the announcement is at night because that's when bats come out! LOL

And you'll also be able to see the new campfires!

0g said:

Paula over at Holiday World put a lot of teasers up on the blog with double meanings and what not in the months leading up to the announcement of the Voyage. If I recall correctly, she even contributed to the discussions we were having about what might be coming. What KI is doing seems to me to be similar to what Paula did.

So?

Shades said:

Wait a minute. Are you saying that a non-family ride will generate excitement and likely increase attendance?

Nope. Not even close. I'm saying that a large, high profile, world record, hype-filled ride like this regardless of type (giga, invert, wing, whatever) will generate the same level of interest relative to each other.

I'm not speculating one bit on what the effect would be, just that it'd be equal across the board regardless of coaster style.

I have proof that it's an invert. Ready? Make sure you are sitting down. lol

This is a photo that I lifted from KICentral. (Ignore the red circle.) In it, you can see the station and the switchbacks leading to the station. Look closely at the gates on one side of the station track, and the lack of gates on the other side of the station track. Notice how the line leads to the side with the gates and the other side leads to an exit ramp leading off of the ride? Notice the width of the trains illustrated in the photo?

Based on this information, and the supports that can be seen on the blueprints that we have seen, it is clearly an inverted coaster. Unless this blueprint is a forgery, and we have been double-duped, the answer is right in front of us.

We will all know for sure tomorrow, but I know right now. :)

My eyes kept shifting back to the red circle as much as I tried to ignore.

Yeah, Its funny over at KI Central they focused on the red circle and said they're were doors and the steps were enclosed. That is merely two sets of steps with a landing in between. LOL

It also clearly shows the lift going through the vertical loop. 8 inversion Invert :) See you tonight.

Roller Coaster DataBase has some details on Kings Island's invert:

http://rcdb.com/6640.htm

We can also see that it'll run three trains if this is indeed the blueprint. Otherwise building a transfer track with three spots would be pointless.

And 0g, the amusement industry is a very small world. They have a pretty good idea what each other is doing while still keeping future plans a secret.

~Rob