Big Chief announces plans for a new coaster in 2005

Okay, Okay if i can drive from my home in Rochester,NY to SFWOA in ohio in 3 1/2 hours i would say that is pretty darn close to the east coast. *** Edited 1/22/2004 6:53:19 PM UTC by darienlakefan***

Ahh, but you see Maryland was a southern state in those days! (recall the Mason-Dixon line)

And Maryland is definitely more "northern" (culturally speaking) than West Virginia (IMO). Heck VIRGINIA is more northern than WVa.

lata, jeremy

--who now techincally lives in the South

I don't know darienlakefan...I live in northern Ohio, and people who live around here refer to the southern shore of Lake Erie as the *northcoast* *** Edited 1/22/2004 7:00:14 PM UTC by Thrillerman***

the owner of big chief died. are they still going on with the expansion?

The original owner died. Now the park is owned by his son.

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2Hostyl said:And Maryland is definitely more "northern" (culturally speaking) than West Virginia (IMO). Heck VIRGINIA is more northern than WVa.

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Are you talking about Baltimore, or are you talking about the little sliver of Maryland that's squeezed bewteen Pennsylvania and West Virginia? Because if it's the latter, that's definitely southern.

I would put the line between northeast and southeast between Virginia and North Carolina.

Anyone run through the usual woodie builder's pages for clues?

Oh wait--that was on topic. (Slaps forehead) Never mind. Is TOO Midwest!

-'Playa

Haha No kidding, I was wondering when this was getting back to what the ride could possibly be!

Joe, thinks S&S launch, but has no insider information!

My only problem with all of ways of dividing up the country into regions is that it goes by state lines. You could probably more realistically divide things up by ignoring state lines.

For example - western PA.

People around here like to think of themselves as "east coast" when in reality they have very little in common with the east coast.

Pittsburgh and Philly may be in the same state but they're worlds apart in attitude, lifestyle, quality of life, etc.

The change occurs as soon as you cross the mountains that divide the state. That's where I'd draw the line. (same could probably be said for NY too)

Pittsburgh and the surrounding area fits in perfectly with the whole Ohio, Indiana "Midwest" rural thing.

Just a little pet peeve of mine - especially since I just moved back to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has got to be one of the most "rural" cities in the country.

If I were to divide the country it'd probably be:

New England
Mid-Atlantic
South
Midwest
Southwest
The West

EDIT - Mine would be similar to this map - except the "midwest" would also include the top part of Kentucky and WV and include the western portions of PA and NY.

If I was feeling froggy, I'd also split the south into the "South" and "Southeast" and cut the panhandle off of Florida and draw the line right up the borders of GA, SC, NC and VA - calling those states the Southeast.

The West could probably be divided into two more telling sections too, but you have to be flakey to liveout west ;) - so we'll just bunch that whole area together :)

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You're all wrong. Surprise! ;) The common usage of midwest has less to do with geography and more about "state" of mind, culture, and accent. Think "the midwest farmer's daughter" that David Lee Roth (umm...I mean Brian Wilson) sang about. She was definitely from one of those states east of the Mississippi and west of the eastern mountain ranges. Notice how the midwestern accent is most desirable for TV broadcasters, etc. It's that whole heart of America concept. Something to do with corn...

OK, I'm gonna stop rambling now. :)

I like that, Dawnmarie. That's actually very accurate. East of the Mississippi and west of the eastern Mountain ranges. The heartland, if you will.

That sums up Midwest about as perfectly as one can!

Ummm, who's Brian Wilson. Did he write that song for Diamond Dave? ;)

Well, this is either going to be a Hyper if SFGAm is counted as a midwestern park, or it is going to be around 115-125 Feet tall...let the speculation begin [If it hasn't already :)] This is definately surprising adding 2 coasters in 2 years for BCK&C, considering one of the owners had to sell their Viper to finish Zeus... They must be out of their financial troubles, great addition!

Joe: I dunno....did you read the article? Usually, photos of stacked lumber cords say 'woodie' to me.

They'd only have to top 127' (AE) to be the tallest woodie in the Mid-whatever. And if it isn't wood, it isn't a coaster anyway, right?

-'Playa
(airing out the only possible explanation)

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Read it again Playa. The caption says, "Timber cords are lined up for semis to haul out..." They're removing trees.

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Lord Gonchar said:Ummm, who's Brian Wilson. Did he write that song for Diamond Dave?

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Yeah, I'm not entirely sure who he is...some fat guy in a Barenaked Ladies song. ;)

Playa - Yeah, like Rich said, they are clearing out the land. There was no mention of what material is being used to construct the new ride. I guess 127ft isn't all THAT tall for a wooden coaster (given the height of some other woodies) but the article did say that it was to be the tallest and fastest *coaster* in the midwest.

But you and I both know that marketing types like to be fuzzy. :)

Sounds like Big Chief is gonna start playing in the big leagues, whatever the new ride turns out to be. I'm pretty happy for them!

Joe

If they are going to start playing in the big leagues they need STEEL, and a couple of rides other than the carts.

well, here are teh midwest states:http://accounting.rutgers.edu/raw/aaa/midwest/map.gif

now back to the topic, I've looked at the tallest coasters in that region on RCDB, and teh tallest is Mr. Freeze at SFStL, and then Deja Vu and Raging Bull at SFGAm, all of which are around 210'. For somereason I still see big chiefs as being too small a park to put in a 200 ft hyper, so I'm picturing a shuttle/impulse.

but now thinking of the prices of those, it would be just as cheap to put in a ful circut... I just don't know any more. brain hurts... good bye

All I can say is everybody don't get a major case of anticipointment. Big Chief's has done these weird marketing ploys in the past so let's just wait and see.

OK... we have Cyclops, Zeus, and Pegasus. What other good greek mythological names are there that will fit this new coaster?

Wood - anything else is an imitation