Beast POV with new brakes

No, I just stated that one has nothing to do with the other.

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"He's blazin' away like the stars in the universe.." A. Vega + M. Rev "Ghostrider"

Let me ask you something...

You're sitting behind me on a coaster train (which is 90% of the time impossible cause I ride in the back, but for arguements sake you are) and you see me go to snap a picture. Now, clearly the first thing that's gonna cross your mind is "GASP! An infidel!", but honestly, are you truly gonna be worried that you could be hurt by it? You'd have to see how I hold my camera too. My strap has a boa constrictor-like grasp on my wrist. When the ride is over, my hand looks like the old-timey barbershop pole (or candycane for you younguns!

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Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like bananas.

Honestly, no I would not scream "Infadel." Why? I honestly don't care whether or not you take pictures.

My question was not with your desire to take pictures on a ride, but rather with your reasoning as to why you should be exempt from the rules. In my opinion, your job dealing with hazardous chemicals and the assurance that you "trust yourself" aren't valid reasons that you should not have to obey the rules that are there to protect everyone. Even if there is only a .00001% (Den's Figure) chance that something may happen.

Would you turn to the mother of the kid whose nose you bashed in and say "Sorry, but I handle methyl isocyanate. I fully trusted in myself, and this shouldn't have happened."

Or maybe this: "But I've ridden this ride 100s of times. I know every fact and figure about it and this park. There's no way I could have knocked Timmy's teeth out."

If those statements make no sense to you, there's a reason: they're illogical.

Sorry for the melodrama, and I obviously don't think you would say something that lame to someone you just injured. I only used a "worse case scenario" to make a point.

*** This post was edited by chris on 4/17/2002. ***

Well, you've answered the question for me then. You wouldn't care enough to say anything, so I think we'd get along fine. :)

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Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like bananas.

Cool, you can take pictures of me smoking in line. ;)

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"He's blazin' away like the stars in the universe.." A. Vega + M. Rev "Ghostrider"

No problem. Just don't tell anyone I'm pregnant and have a history of back problems.

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Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like bananas.

Wow, people can carry out a constructive argument without flaming! Good stuff

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- Peabody

Yes, I like this thread. Thanks for not getting hostile, guys.

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He let the contents of the bottle do the thinking; can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding.

Den said:

Ever driven over the speed limit? Even 1mph?
Yeah whats your point.
Ever passed someone and forgotten to honk your horn as a warning? What?? Yep, it's in the rulebooks - at least in Ohio.
IN Ohio you are only required to honk your horn when passing on a singled dotted Yellow line, and no I dont honk.

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*** This post was edited by FoF on 4/17/2002. ***

chris (note the little 'c'), in the purist sense of the word, I would call myself an enthusiast (even though being a bastard has *nothing* to do with it ;)). However, I do not like the *connotation* that goes with it. As I've stated before, as a group so-called coaster enthusiasts are about one step above Trekkies. I know some are going to take offense at this, but some enthusiasts are just flat out weird. And the weirdoes are disproportionate to the "normals" (if there is such a thing).

I know *exactly* what Jeff meant when he said he left KennyCon early last year because he didnt feel like being around a buch of enthusiasts. Sometimes I think folks take it too far. There *are* other things going on in the world ya know.

but yes I love amusement parks in general and roller coasters in particular :)
jeremy
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"Nobody writes about the planes that land." Steve Salerno Washington Times 7-10-01

Pete said:
I hate this segregation of enthusiasts and GP. Like enthusiasts aren’t members of the general public! This is ridicules, enthusiasts are customers of the amusement park, nothing more, nothing less. They must abide by the same rules and procedures. Some people think they are entitled to extra privileges just because they send in some money to join a coaster club.

I agree. I don't get this either. Most of the people I know luckily know there is no difference per se in enthusiasts and GP. We all follow the same rules. We all ride the same rides. However, those same people and myself also know it all depends on how you look at it. A person doesn't have to be in ANY club to be considered an enthusiasts IMO.

If I want to talk coasters with more coaster lovers, or if a park offers me a discount for being a member of a coaster club, then perhaps I am an enthusiasts. I don't care. Names are names. I am a member of two coaster enthusiasts clubs. Just because I may associate myself with other enthusiasts doesn't exactly put me into a whole other group. It just shows our love for the rides.

However, I think a line can be crossed when 'expecting' certain perks JUST because you are a enthusiasts. That is the wrong way to percieve an enthusiasts in my views. Those are the folks that are clearly into the hobby for the wrong reasons.

Now, I totally repect those folks that don't like to be called 'enthusaists' but the way I look at it, anyone that is into this hobby (or any hobby for that matter) as much as we are are enthusiastic about it. Enthusiasts? Coaster Freaks? Rail Junkies? Roller Coaster Lovers? X-Static Riders, or whatever, it's all the same in my book.

-Sean

2Hostyl, those people who go overboard are NOT enthusiasts, I call them enthusiasses. The only connotation that I make with the word is my own perception. ACE nor any other group forces you to hang with them, or perscribe to their beliefs. I won't hang with idiots whether they are members of some over-zealous group, or just a casual fan.

Just my personal 2 pennies, why are you all so eager to get POV for? Is it a competition or something? I never care much to look at POV, my only feelings on the matter is that some people feel like they HAVE to have the things. It's thoughts like these that must cross peoples' minds, "my god! The Beast has different braking, I need to record that to put on the net for people, THEY MUST NOT LIVE WITHOUT IT!!!!"

A good portion of people feel the need to break the camera rule, I always see these POV threads, or people commenting or posting news relating to POVs or cameras on rides, & it gets on my nerves quite frankly, it's like saying it's OK because of "the enthusiast" factor. If it's in violation of rules, I shouldn't see it flaunted in my face, right?

Anyhow, between bubbles & cameras on rides, sounds like Dan will get you in trouble, LOL!!!!!(j/k)

Hey Branon did the bubbles not me. :)

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Jeremy said: "I know *exactly* what Jeff meant when he said he left KennyCon early last year because he didnt feel like being around a buch of enthusiasts. Sometimes I think folks take it too far. There *are* other things going on in the world ya know."

Well that just reeks of a form of elititism! It's a if you are saying, "Oh I'm so much better than those other people, why would I want to hang around them?"

I agree with Sean on this matter.

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2002 - the year of IB's LoCoSuMo!!

Jeez, just when I thought we were all gonna play nice...

Hostyl embraces the "e word" in his own round about way, Shaggy and Den see each other's point of view, me and Homey G. exhange ;) and :) , and Sean F. speaks some truth.

Here comes Mamoosh to crash the love-fest.

Just teasing you, man.

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"you're better off talkin bout your wack puma sneakers." -KRS ONE

Oh but I *am* an elitist. I *do* think I'm better than certain *enthusiast-like* types. I could give you a run down of the type I am talking about, but there are too many of them *on here* and I dont want to be beat up in a geek assault :)
lata,
jeremy
--I told you I was a hypocrite...

No worries, Chris. I'm sure Jeremy knows I'm just giving him a hard time, too.

Matthew

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2002 - the year of LoCoSuMo!!

Now don't be taking my words out of context now. The reason I often don't care to be around enthusiasts is because I'd much rather be around my wife and close friends, since even events are "quality time" for me.

However, there are a relatively small number of enthusiasts that I prefer not to be around, no question about it. You know the types, as we've been through it before. In all fairness it's not any different from any other social group, but with any group that may be perceived negatively (and I find that some parks and GP do), I'd prefer not to be associated with that.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

I'm all about talking coasters in line at parks. Unless, that is, there's a few fair members of the opposite sex around. Most "enthoozies" I've talked to to parks don't seem to notice, and quite frankly, I don't want you "thoozies" who are more interested in lumber than women messing up ANY AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY to chat with the ladies.

I mean, you gotta draw the line somewheres, right?

--Brian, who notices this thread has horrendously flown off topic.

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Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like bananas.

*** This post was edited by Homey G. on 4/18/2002. ***