2 Men banned from BGE

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:53 AM
matt.'s avatar Ok, then I'm at a loss for where their romantic interest in each other is either apparent or made clear in any of the videos.

Did I miss it somewhere?

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:55 AM
Probably a lot of intangibles. I watched the video and immediately figured they were gay... just something I happened to pick up on. It wasn't anything negative, just one of those, "I guess they're together" thoughts.
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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:02 AM
I saw nothing at all in the video that made me think they were together, or even remotely into each other in a romantic sense. Personally, I think it's clear that AJ's comment was not "they did this because they were blinded by love" but an insult toward their sexuality. Let's not pretend that inferring that someone is gay isn't a common insult for heterosexual men.

I wasn't offended by the comment. In fact, I wouldn't have said anything if an issue hadn't been made by this. But now that we're discussing it, I'm calling it as I originally saw it...as a stupid, somewhat ignorant comment that just made me roll my eyes in its immaturity and unoriginality.

-Nate

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:03 AM
matt.'s avatar Yes, so based on a lot of intangibles (I'm assuming body language, physical appearance, vocal cues etc) we will assume that they are a couple, in love, which is the explanation for why they would possibly attempt to tamper with a roller coaster. Because, as we all know "Basic friendship never would cause this current scenario" and people in perfectly platonic relationships couldn't possible try to do a little hijinks at a park and attention whore on YouTube.

Perfectly clear now, thanks.

*** Edited 9/12/2007 3:05:16 PM UTC by matt.***

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:04 AM
Yeah, I don't see any indication of romantic involvement in those videos. It just looks like a couple of guys horsing around.
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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:04 AM
So we all agree to disagree?
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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:07 AM
matt.'s avatar

Rob Ascough said:
So we all agree to disagree?

Even if they were clearly involved with each other and looked right into the camera and said "We are a gay couple" I'm still missing the connection between what they're accused of doing and what their relationship is.

Uninvolved people don't do stupid stuff and then post it on YouTube? What about that (cool) video of the skateboarders romping around that abandoned water park, which, moreso than Griffon videos, was *clearly* illegal and dangerous? I didn't hear anybody say "Oh, those skateboarders must be in love."

Here it is for those who don't know what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLJLI2jFcCE *** Edited 9/12/2007 3:12:58 PM UTC by matt.***

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:11 AM

millrace said:
It is obvious gay-bashing. That comment has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand except to suggest that in addition to being idiots they are also gay. As if the two go hand in hand.

It's not about politcal correctness. It's about making a cheap shot towards a repressed group in a lame attempt to be funny.


I'm not so good at typing out what I mean, but millrace did it perfectly above. Thanks!

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:13 AM
But I pretty much explained why I see a connection between their relationship and what they did. They didn't tamper with the restraints because they're gay (or might be gay, since nothing has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt) but rather the fact that they're two people in love may have influenced their foolish actions. I've never done anything like that but I can rattle off a list of stupid things I've done while "in love" because I was trying to impress my lover- acting tough, acting rebellious, acting silly and acting smarter-than-everyone-else are just a few things that come to mind. Anyone who's been in love knows that you're not 100% you in the very beginning.

This really isn't a gay thing, and I'm not sure why it's being made out to be one. That's all I'm saying.

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:14 AM

coasterdude318 said:
an insult toward their sexuality. Let's not pretend that inferring that someone is gay isn't a common insult for heterosexual men.

-Nate


Especially the types... uhhh... the somewhat 'curious' ones.

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:16 AM
matt.'s avatar

Rob Ascough said:
I'm not sure why it's being made out to be one. That's all I'm saying.

You said in so many words on page 2 it was being turned into a gay thing because of excessive political correctness and a willingness to play the victim card.

Just sayin'.

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:35 AM

Rob Ascough said:
I can rattle off a list of stupid things I've done while "in love" because I was trying to impress my lover- acting tough, acting rebellious, acting silly and acting smarter-than-everyone-else are just a few things that come to mind. Anyone who's been in love knows that you're not 100% you in the very beginning.

Does that mean you're in love with Jeff and Gonch or do you act like that even when you're not in love? ;)

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:48 AM
Oh, it's love, all the way.
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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:59 AM
rollergator's avatar So....maybe I've been away from this thread too long...

BGE threw two guys out for being gay? And they let Larry Craig in?

Just for clarity's sake, BGA is not an acronym for "Big Gay Al".....but maybe it SHOULD be. :)
*** Edited 9/12/2007 4:00:29 PM UTC by rollergator***

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:01 PM
That'd be cool. The world needs a South Park-themed attraction. That's almost as overdue as a Simpsons attraction!
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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:56 PM
eightdotthree's avatar

Rob Ascough said:
I've never done anything like that but I can rattle off a list of stupid things I've done while "in love" because I was trying to impress my lover- acting tough, acting rebellious, acting silly and acting smarter-than-everyone-else are just a few things that come to mind.

Right. Man, the crap I tried to pull when I had a "crush..."


matt. said:
What about that (cool) video of the skateboarders romping around that abandoned water park, which, moreso than Griffon videos, was *clearly* illegal and dangerous? I didn't hear anybody say "Oh, those skateboarders must be in love."

Thats cause they weren't flirting with each other.

I don't see how a comment about two people being in love, doing something stupid, is gay bashing. They are just two people, doing something stupid, who appear to be in a relationship or have a crush on one another.

This is similar to Coasterphan making the comment about ACE. He came to his own conclusions about ACE members and applied them to this situation. No one else did that for him.


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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:13 PM
matt.'s avatar

eightdotthree said:
They are just two people, doing something stupid, who appear to be in a relationship or have a crush on one another.

That wasn't the argument. The argument was that they were in love and people who were just merely friends wouldn't have done something like this together. In other words their romantic relationship (which we're just assuming [or not assuming] exists) is at least partial explanation for why their behavior is supposedly what it is.

To which I still happily say "lol wut?"

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:13 PM
I still doubt very much that was what AJ was saying.

Let's be honest here. Does anyone really believe AJ's comment was meant to be interpreted as "those in love do stupid things?" Really? Because that's sure not how I took it, that's not how others seem to have interpreted it, and I doubt very much that's how he meant it.

So that's why it's an ignorant comment. If he had elaborated and made some bizarre "blinded by love" comment, maybe we wouldn't be arguing this (though I'd still think that's awfully weird logic, for a heterosexual or homosexual couple). Either way, that isn't the case here. Instead, it's "they're probably in love with each other" which translates to "their gay" which translates to an insult for the vast majority of heterosexual men out there.

And as for flirting with each other...sorry, I don't see it. I see two guys I would easily assume were straight horsing around and doing something stupid...just like the majority of idiots out there.

-Nate

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:15 PM
They are just two people, doing something stupid, who appear to be in a relationship or have a crush on one another.

^ And I believe that's all that was implied.

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:17 PM
I don't agree. Okay, that's the implication he made, but when made while dishing out a list of other insults, then it's pretty clear that being "in love with each other" is a bad thing...according to comment anyway. Of course it's not offensive or insulting to point out that people are in love or in a relationship (heterosexual or homosexual). It's the tone/context in which it's said (or, in this case, typed) that's the problem.

-Nate *** Edited 9/12/2007 5:18:30 PM UTC by coasterdude318***

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