Did I miss it somewhere?
I wasn't offended by the comment. In fact, I wouldn't have said anything if an issue hadn't been made by this. But now that we're discussing it, I'm calling it as I originally saw it...as a stupid, somewhat ignorant comment that just made me roll my eyes in its immaturity and unoriginality.
Perfectly clear now, thanks.
*** Edited 9/12/2007 3:05:16 PM UTC by matt.***
Rob Ascough said:
So we all agree to disagree?
Even if they were clearly involved with each other and looked right into the camera and said "We are a gay couple" I'm still missing the connection between what they're accused of doing and what their relationship is.
Uninvolved people don't do stupid stuff and then post it on YouTube? What about that (cool) video of the skateboarders romping around that abandoned water park, which, moreso than Griffon videos, was *clearly* illegal and dangerous? I didn't hear anybody say "Oh, those skateboarders must be in love."
Here it is for those who don't know what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLJLI2jFcCE *** Edited 9/12/2007 3:12:58 PM UTC by matt.***
It is obvious gay-bashing. That comment has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand except to suggest that in addition to being idiots they are also gay. As if the two go hand in hand.
It's not about politcal correctness. It's about making a cheap shot towards a repressed group in a lame attempt to be funny.
I'm not so good at typing out what I mean, but millrace did it perfectly above. Thanks!
This really isn't a gay thing, and I'm not sure why it's being made out to be one. That's all I'm saying.
an insult toward their sexuality. Let's not pretend that inferring that someone is gay isn't a common insult for heterosexual men.
Especially the types... uhhh... the somewhat 'curious' ones.
Rob Ascough said:
I'm not sure why it's being made out to be one. That's all I'm saying.
You said in so many words on page 2 it was being turned into a gay thing because of excessive political correctness and a willingness to play the victim card.
Rob Ascough said:
I can rattle off a list of stupid things I've done while "in love" because I was trying to impress my lover- acting tough, acting rebellious, acting silly and acting smarter-than-everyone-else are just a few things that come to mind. Anyone who's been in love knows that you're not 100% you in the very beginning.
Does that mean you're in love with Jeff and Gonch or do you act like that even when you're not in love? ;)
BGE threw two guys out for being gay? And they let Larry Craig in?
Just for clarity's sake, BGA is not an acronym for "Big Gay Al".....but maybe it SHOULD be. :)
*** Edited 9/12/2007 4:00:29 PM UTC by rollergator***
Rob Ascough said:
I've never done anything like that but I can rattle off a list of stupid things I've done while "in love" because I was trying to impress my lover- acting tough, acting rebellious, acting silly and acting smarter-than-everyone-else are just a few things that come to mind.
Right. Man, the crap I tried to pull when I had a "crush..."
What about that (cool) video of the skateboarders romping around that abandoned water park, which, moreso than Griffon videos, was *clearly* illegal and dangerous? I didn't hear anybody say "Oh, those skateboarders must be in love."
Thats cause they weren't flirting with each other.
I don't see how a comment about two people being in love, doing something stupid, is gay bashing. They are just two people, doing something stupid, who appear to be in a relationship or have a crush on one another.
This is similar to Coasterphan making the comment about ACE. He came to his own conclusions about ACE members and applied them to this situation. No one else did that for him.
They are just two people, doing something stupid, who appear to be in a relationship or have a crush on one another.
That wasn't the argument. The argument was that they were in love and people who were just merely friends wouldn't have done something like this together. In other words their romantic relationship (which we're just assuming [or not assuming] exists) is at least partial explanation for why their behavior is supposedly what it is.
To which I still happily say "lol wut?"
Let's be honest here. Does anyone really believe AJ's comment was meant to be interpreted as "those in love do stupid things?" Really? Because that's sure not how I took it, that's not how others seem to have interpreted it, and I doubt very much that's how he meant it.
So that's why it's an ignorant comment. If he had elaborated and made some bizarre "blinded by love" comment, maybe we wouldn't be arguing this (though I'd still think that's awfully weird logic, for a heterosexual or homosexual couple). Either way, that isn't the case here. Instead, it's "they're probably in love with each other" which translates to "their gay" which translates to an insult for the vast majority of heterosexual men out there.
And as for flirting with each other...sorry, I don't see it. I see two guys I would easily assume were straight horsing around and doing something stupid...just like the majority of idiots out there.
^ And I believe that's all that was implied.
-Nate *** Edited 9/12/2007 5:18:30 PM UTC by coasterdude318***