Cedar Point '07 Project

DantheCoasterman

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:23 PM
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Where's an inversion?

Sorry didn't see the pic............. *** Edited 8/23/2006 11:25:20 PM UTC by DantheCoasterman***

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DantheCoasterman

Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:10 AM
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Are there anymore pictures of the inversion? I'm excited now! :)
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nstod

Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:13 AM
You can see that the inversion is about 3/4 done from the Funcoast cam, but the picture is too grainy to really get a good feel for it.
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DawgByte II

Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:58 AM
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Sooooo... they COULD stilll be going for the inversion record! 1 down, at least 10 more to go! ;)

I'd still like to see a higher-quality pic of it. The others were a little sloppy/blurry.

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ApolloAndy

Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:09 AM
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Brian Noble said:
Okay, I see the center of mass thing. But, it still doesn't matter: you can compensate for this by using a layout that requires less total energy to begin with, and have the forces over that hill be anything you want them to be, provided you can clear the hill.

The point, in theory (not neccesarily fact), is that for a long train to make it over a pointy hill at all, the front and rear would have to crest at an unsafe speed.

All I know is that the last couple bunnies on S:RoS New England are taken somewhat slow and provide insano ejector air with pretty large radius of curvature (compared to say, dragster).


Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

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Comatose

Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:00 AM
This doesn't look like it'll be a tall or high speed ride. But even if it never goes above 70' or 50mph for the whole ride it could still be very inversion heavy. If we assume that this is a LIM launched coaster, then there's no reason to launch to a high speed, then coast through the course with elements getting smaller and smaller as the train's KE decays.
If you were going for a twister with lots of inversions, it'd be smaller and cheaper to launch to maybe 45mph, go through some elements, then relaunch back to 45mph, hit a few more and continue on in that fashion. The advantage would be that you wouldn't need to spend the money for a 200' first loop. Basically you'd have a little "boost" section every thousand feet of track or so and size all your elements to be interesting at that speed. The only downside to this is the number of sensors and electrical bits that would be required. But its Intamin, hugely overcomplicated electical and control systems seem to be a point of pride... *** Edited 8/24/2006 2:01:04 AM UTC by Comatose***
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BGRooDoG

Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:34 AM
I threw this together in light of recent developments. Its very possible I think...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/roodog/zerogrolls.jpg

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Neuski

Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:09 AM
All my reservations about P'07 are slowly fading away.
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TopThrillDragster420

Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:26 AM
Who knows what the 07-project will turn out to be right now.Im thinking the same as others are about it possibly being a inversion record breaker.Its sad if that is true but whatever this will be im sure CP will make it enjoyable as the other coasters. I was hoping for a record breaker for height and speed as we were told in the past.

Enjoy the rest of your day here at Cedar Point ,, Americas Rock n' Rollercoast.
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BANDandDCI

Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:28 AM
hey this was posted on another site, we're not sure if it's correct, but what do you think.

http://photos-653.facebook.com/ip006/v42/45/75/21910439/n21910439_30636653_1428.jpg

If you can see it, idk, but like I said, we don't know where this picture came from, but it's more convicing...whoa!!!!

If that's true, it starts off on a lift hill, then cycles, then the lims take over, and it's a LAUNCH!!!!

SWEET! *** Edited 8/24/2006 3:43:45 AM UTC by BANDandDCI***

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Neuski

Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:35 AM
It certainly would be unique but I have a hard time believing that they would spend their money on two systems such as that.
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SFoGswim

Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:45 AM
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I bed Cedar Point designed it in NoLimits...

Anyway, Comatose, you say they would save their "200' loop" money for another section of LIM's? The cost isn't even close. The LIM's would be much more expensive.

I, for one, am sad to see the inversions. OTSR's all the way. :(


Welcome back, red train, how was your ride?!
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Neuski

Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:48 AM
Even if it didn't have any, I bet we would still be seeing OTSR's.
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Acoustic Viscosity

Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:49 AM
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According to that NL model, there are two stations (the brown segments). Looks like somebody's dueling launcher wet dream to me.

AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf

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Danimales

Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:08 AM
Here's some very nice shots of the inversion. Corkscrew, Zero-G roll... Whatever, it sure looks like fun.

http://www.phpbber.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=637&mforum=thepointforums#637

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matt.

Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:25 AM
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Neuski said:
All my reservations about P'07 are slowly fading away.

And all of mine are coming to the fore. At this point I'm hoping for some sort of unique seat configuration because those low to the ground zig zags plus the airtime hill look amazing. With standard OSTR's? Not so much.

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kRaXLeRidAh

Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:22 AM
Aquatraxx?

This? http://www.heide-park-world.de/report/desertrace/entwuerfe/index.html

or THIS?

http://www.umwebsite.com/portal.php?id=4news_index&lan=en

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfPbmQ3J4FQ *** Edited 8/24/2006 10:24:24 AM UTC by kRaXLeRidAh***

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BANDandDCI

Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:09 PM
Didn't we disprove the aquatraxx earlier?

but Who said Cedar wasn't planning on building another record breaker. This is just a side coaster to put in. To put tht on the tally, so the SFMM has a run. But it has been a while since cedar has put in a new mild coaster. So this is the perfect coaster, to fill that gap. *** Edited 8/24/2006 12:29:06 PM UTC by BANDandDCI***

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Michael Darling

Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:10 PM
It's not an Aquatraxx. If you've been to the park and taken a look (and have 3/4 of a brain) you can tell what's going on.
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tambo

Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:15 PM
I guess I smoked too much of the funny stuff back in the day, because I haven't a clue! ;)

-Tambo

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