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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:25 PM

Raven-Phile said:

billb7581 said:

4: "Everyone here's" opinion is not valid.

Including, and especially yours. Trolololo

Actually I am one of the few people here that wouldn't truck to Great Adventure if it were not my closest Six Flags park. I would go to my closest park, as would most normal people.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:27 PM

Tekwardo said:
OMG. Seriously. He has an answer for everything. Still arguing that the hotel has to be seasonal when it clearly wouldn't.

How have you demonstrated a hotel that doesnt exist would not have to be seasonal? As of right now it's very seasonal, it's closed 365 days a year.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:48 PM
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billb7581 said:


Actually I am one of the few people here that wouldn't truck to Great Adventure if it were not my closest Six Flags park. I would go to my closest park, as would most normal people.

I think you've demonstrated that you're far from the most normal person here. You run around calling everyone "coaster nerds" and the like, when they are the ones who are looking at this with a level head. Get over yourself. Families travel, and they do go places out of state. When I was a kid, I went to Busch Gardens in VA on a family vacation, and another time with a school trip.

Granted, the average Joe isn't going to drag his family from Cleveland to go to Quassy or Canobie Lake, but one of the largest attractions in the country? with record-breaking rides they've seen on TV? Of course they're going to visit. That's kind of the point.


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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:51 PM
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No Joah you're wrong. Families don't go on vacation. If they did, theme parks would already have hotels built.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:06 PM
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You're such a coaster nerd, Clint. And an armchair comedian, and a pirate, a freedom-hater, and you're not coaster enough.

Or Maverick.


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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:19 PM
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Yeah well Dave Matthews still sucks. Hard. Ke$ha is more talented. Besides If he was going back on tour, he'd already be in tour.


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:47 AM
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LOL well... well.. Ah, I don't know - I can't even think straight. I just got up after a surprise 16 1/2 hour work day yesterday, and it's still raining outside.

It's like Jeff moved to Seattle, and sent us his weather.


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:07 AM
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It's not Jeff's fault; this weather is coming from the *east* somehow. :)

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:02 AM
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Nuke-you-lar ray-dee-ay-shun. That's why.


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:24 PM

Raven-Phile said:


billb7581 said:


Actually I am one of the few people here that wouldn't truck to Great Adventure if it were not my closest Six Flags park. I would go to my closest park, as would most normal people.

I think you've demonstrated that you're far from the most normal person here. You run around calling everyone "coaster nerds" and the like, when they are the ones who are looking at this with a level head. Get over yourself. Families travel, and they do go places out of state. When I was a kid, I went to Busch Gardens in VA on a family vacation, and another time with a school trip.

Granted, the average Joe isn't going to drag his family from Cleveland to go to Quassy or Canobie Lake, but one of the largest attractions in the country? with record-breaking rides they've seen on TV? Of course they're going to visit. That's kind of the point.


The situations are in no way comprable.

Williamsburg supports a tourist industry aside from theme parks, BG and Water Country suppliment that, but people still go there to see the historical stuff, shop, etc when the parks are closed. .

Jackson has GA and a Tanger Outlet that is identical to every other Tangier outlet. It's kind of close to Seaside Heights (which also shuts down for the winter) it's kind of close to Philadelphia but not close enough to be convenient. It's not really close to Atlantic City, so what's the draw?

Again you have to apeal to the "record breaking rides". For the average person a roller coaster is a roller coaster, half the parents don't ride they just walk around while the kids go on rides so they get the same utility from their closest amusement park as they would trucking 500 miles to book a motel in the middle of nowhere.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:45 PM
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This guy's hilarious!


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:51 PM

Hilarious how? I'm not going to drive to Sandusky and use up precious vacation time, because my kids want to go on some "record breaking" rides. I enjoy roller coasters, but not that much. You people make it sound like the average parent is an ACE member.

We keep on going around in circles, I can easily prove the lack of need for a hotel there. There isn't one and the park has flourished for 36 seasons.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:04 PM
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Does it NEED one? I'd say no.... but that would only provide incentive for guests to come back for an additional day, if not more. And that provides additional revenue. When a company simply becomes complacent with their profit margins, thats when it begins to fail. Happier guests stay longer, guests who stay longer spend more money. I think many people are happier if they have to travel a shorter distance to get to the park. So why not try to make them happier?


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:22 PM
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No one ever said "need". The question of the day (month, year, decade) is "would it be profitable"? That's the source of the debate...NOT need.

Why did I allow myself to get dragged back into this?

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:29 PM
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billb7581 said:
We keep on going around in circles, I can easily prove the lack of need for a hotel there. There isn't one and the park has flourished for 36 seasons.

Who said the park needs the hotel? I thought the argument was that a hotel needs the park. Duh.


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:40 PM
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The park flourished 36 seasons without the new coaster. Explain why they built that...


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:00 PM
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billb7581 said:
Hilarious how?

How has been explained repeatedly. Your utter obliviousness is part of what makes you so hilarious. Continue please...


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:59 PM

This is too hilarious, but thanks for the paper topic (Hotel Feasibility Study at Jackson Theme Park)! I'll be back to give Bill the bad news once its written...unless someone realizes the potential before I get to that point (be it park management or an outside chain/investment group). ;)


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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:54 PM
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billb7581 said:
Hilarious how? I'm not going to drive to Sandusky and use up precious vacation time, because my kids want to go on some "record breaking" rides. I enjoy roller coasters, but not that much. You people make it sound like the average parent is an ACE member.

I still don't know why you post on CoasterBuzz.

And you must not be like other families that I know. These days, a lot of kids rule the house. Kids control what the parent will spend extra money on. Many parents love and spoil their kids so much, that let them choose where the family goes on vacation. I'm not saying it's right or wrong... I'm just saying that's the way it is for some.



We keep on going around in circles, I can easily prove the lack of need for a hotel there. There isn't one and the park has flourished for 36 seasons.

All you have proved is that you don't know what the heck you are talking about. A hotel would help the park "flourish" even more than it already does. More "flourishing" is the point of all business. Some of us have "proven" (lol) that a nearby hotel would be a great benefit for SFGAdv. If people want to stay in a hotel as it is now, they have to travel an inconvenient distance from the park to get to one. The park even has an adjacent waterpark and safari, which could easily add days to their stay, if they had a convenient place to stay. The whole property would be even more successful if it was marketed as a multi-day vacation destination.

One of the most attended parks in the country could benefit from a nearby hotel. Not everyone who desires to travel further than an hour or so to get to a park is a coaster enthusiast. Families and even groups of younger collage-aged friends would benefit from having a close place to stay near the park. I still don't know how you can't believe that, and I am even more amazed at how passionate you are against the idea.


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Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:41 AM

billb7581 said:
I'm not going to drive to Sandusky and use up precious vacation time, because my kids want to go on some "record breaking" rides.

Yet Sandusky supports dozens of profitable hotels (many of which are closed in the winter) because many people do that exact thing.


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