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Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:12 AM
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W.C Fields famously said "On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia". Therefore, there is clearly no need for a hotel in Jackson, NJ.

I think that concludes our ridiculous argument phase of this thread....did someone mention Hitler (or hotelier?) yet?

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Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:28 AM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:08 PM
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billb7581 said:
You are already drawing enough people, to make the park "packed" absent a hotel. So why exactly is a hotel needed?


Sorry, son you're just wrong.

"You don't build a hotel to attract people"

LOL, isn't Six Flags in the business of "attracting people" to their parks?

We need a little smiley that has his mouth dropped wide open in disbelief.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:25 PM
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Bill, I am going to be a nice guy here and ask you to read the few posts above your last replies, and maybe try to underst- Never mind...

Let's look at my home park for a second. Kings Island is 3.5 hours away from my house. Any time I go, I get a hotel. There are a lot of hotels right near the park that wouldn't be there without the park. Most of them were built because of the demand. People desired hotels just outside the park, instead of having to drive all the way into Cincinnati, about 10 minutes away. The closer hotels get more of the Kings Island crowd.

SFGAdv, on the other hand, has no nearby hotels, so people who need or want a hotel have to travel 15 or 30 minutes outside of the park to get one.

Now please reread the post at least one more time before continuing any further. I want you to understand that some people who go to an amusement park, some with their families, desire a hotel to stay at during their visit. I wonder if you agree with that...

No seriously. Reread it, please.

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"You don't build a hotel to attract people"

I think that you'll agree that those people are already coming to the park weather or not their is a hotel for them to stay at.

I hope you would agree that some of them may want a hotel.

I don't know why you wont agree that a hotel on property would be an excellent place for them to stay, instead of driving outside of Jackson.

When is the last time Six Flags built a hotel for any of their chains? They are not in the hotel building business. That is why they are looking for a partner. They realize that a hotel is needed there. You are arguing that even though they talk to the press about needing a nearby hotel, they don't need one. You, Sir, are an idiot.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:38 PM

Show me one example of a chain seasonal "hotel" somewhere like Wildwood may have seasonal independantly owned "motels" that shut down from Labor Day to Palm Sunday, but I've never seen a Red Roof Inn that was closed for the winter.

All this name calling, and the plans are no further along then they were in 1996, when Six Flags proposed building 200 million worth of other stuff to do there to even necessitate a hotel onsite.

My argument always was that a hotel in Jackson New Jersey would never be in the black.

The fact that no hotel chain, or other investor has jumped at the opportunity to partner up with them, and the conspicuous abscence of a hotel nearby proves this is the case. Hotels get built for a reason, the marketplace dictates one is needed.

Last edited by billb7581, Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:42 PM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:41 PM

Your kings island example isnt a valid comparison, those Hotels are 10 minutes from Cincinatti (according to you).

I'd venture to guess plenty of people have a need for lodging convenient to Cincinatti, along with Kings Island.

That isn't the case for Jackson. If you were going to Philly or NYC, you wouldnt book a room 45 minutes to an hour and a half away.

Last edited by billb7581, Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:42 PM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:47 PM
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You keep changing your argument. And ignore facts. And expect people to listen to you when you say stupid stuff like there are too many people that visit already, so they don't need a hotel there. I can't argue with that, because it's a severe lack of logical thinking. Also, you don't need to double post, but you do need a sense of humor. That is all.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:59 PM
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If you where going to Six Flags, you wouldn't "want" to book a hotel 45 minutes to an hour away either.

The hotels built near KI were built because their was a theme park there. They were built almost within walking distance to the park. Most of those hotels would not be there without the park being there too.

I understand what you are saying when it comes to these KI hotels, but you are wrong. I get it that because they are near the big city, the hotels near KI may fill some rooms even when the park is closed for the season, which makes them more profitable over the year. I do not agree, however, that if KI was not near Cincinnati, hotels like this would be unprofitable.

Look at Hotel Breakers on Cedar Point property. They were built because they service the park. They close in the off-season. They are very profitable.

I'm only replying to try to make you understand why you are wrong. I have a feeling that I'm not going to be able to get through to you either. Even though I am throwing in the towel here, you still lose, because everyone here knows that you are wrong. Most everyone here still thinks that you are an idiot.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:11 PM
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I'm only replying to try to make you understand why you are wrong.

Good luck with that.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:15 PM
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Thanks, Techno, but I am done with it for this round. It's like chiseling stone with a Popsicle stick. :D


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:36 PM

How much do you think a set of Sfgadv hotel Blueprints would go for (2005) ?

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Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:43 PM
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Bill might give you a dollar for them. ;)


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 4:46 PM
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If I had a need for SFGrAdv hotel blueprints, I'd already have them.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 5:52 PM
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I wonder if there would be many problems at a SFGAdventure 'hotel'. Drugs, gangs, etc., etc., lots of over tanning and spikey hair.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 6:18 PM
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Tekwardo said:
Too many wangs and dongs

Yep. That's how I feel every time I visit CoasterBuzz.

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Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:26 PM
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Is it too late to make a joke about Gay Muslims using flash pass without shirts on while paying full price at Disney for a daily admission and claiming that S:TE is a coaster and an over banked turn is an inversion and complaining that their favorite ride didn't place in a poll?

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Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:07 PM
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I don't see what's wrong with a joke along those lines as long as it is made in haiku form and includes something about not being an enthusiast unless you are interested in saving Conneaut...

...or Maverick.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:18 PM

I think I'd need at least a sonnet to do all that...


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:36 PM
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Ay caramba, you're right. Not enough syllables to get all that out.

Oh, and so I make a valid contribution to the topic at hand, Boardwalk Flyer has a ring to it, but I think Wildwoody and its ability to make me laugh for all the wrong reasons would certainly make it stand out a little better. Talk about generating some buzz. People would never stop talking about it.


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Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:58 AM
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I didn't like "Wildwoody" until it was pointed out that the park is located in Wildwood. Now I think it's kind of cute.


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