X valleys! - CoasterBuzz

CsTrFrK said:

Mike,
I think all these people are stating this b/c they hear all the bad things that have happened with X. We haven't heard anything good about it in a while.
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I rode it the day before, twice, and it is unlike any coaster on the planet. My first ride was silky smooth, and while the second ride was just a bit bumpy, it was nothing compared to many other headbangers, and still a notch ahead of anything else i've ever ridden. The crews were doing awesome for most of the day, with very limited stacking during the time I was getting a tour of it (big Cali trip report coming soon). I was very impressed overall with all aspects of X.

Although train 3 hasnt ever been run for the public, and it's vallied the last 2 times they've tried to get it up and running, it was train 1 that vallied on sunday... I was told X vallied due to another part being dropped (probably the brake fin again). Of couse, since this is CB- this post will either be shot down or just deleted, much like me Zonga confirmation post from weeks ago and the stuff I posted about scream last september...

I'm not done gloating either, since walls have gone up at Knott's! :) Thats right, tumbler and Slammmer ARE coming out, and a Huss Giant ride will replace them.

ThePhantomLives said:

Although train 3 hasnt ever been run for the public, and it's vallied the last 2 times they've tried to get it up and running, it was train 1 that vallied on sunday... I was told X vallied due to another part being dropped (probably the brake fin again). Of couse, since this is CB- this post will either be shot down or just deleted, much like me Zonga confirmation post from weeks ago and the stuff I posted about scream last september...
Maybe you should try making up some outrageous, bogus rumors instead, LOL!
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Bass.....you mean like SF has *wenches* that are on-call to retrieve valleyed coasters.....and that they're being fed steroids to help retrieve X trains since they are SO much heavier than normal coaster trains....something like that....;)

Ahh, I've heard of these "coaster wenches". I think they're cloned or something, and Six Flags are the only parks that have them.

Talk about buff...

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So, I'm being mocked in two threads at once for the same mistake, eh?

Wench =! winch

It was a typ0... sorry!

CoasterKrazy said:

Wasn't Six Flags Magic Mountain in the process of installing new trim brakes? I'm not quite sure when they were supposed to be added, so maybe modifications where finished and the trims were a little too strong?
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The coaster gods are punishing them for adding trims. :)

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Hehehehe, o so very very true ;)

From what I know X's 3rd train was cannibalised for the other twos spare parts.

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X's 3rd train is sitting in the maintnance shed awaiting a few parts, then it'll be up and running. It was canabalized last year, but maintnance is working thier @sses off getting it back upto running order. It's had a few additional modifications from a certain "other" coaster company (the one that's building Scream ;) ). If you don't choose to believe me, you don't haveto, but when you see a B&M logo on that 3rd train when its operational, just remember what I said :)

And the trims have been on the ride since it opened, they've just been lowered into thier mounts.

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To me, it wouldn't make sense to have B&M work on X's trains. Why wouldn't Six Flags have Arrow work on the trains, when they have the original plans, calculations, and everything else dealing with the ride. I don't think it would be smart to have another company, even if it is B&M, come in and work on the ride. They may know a lot about their coasters, but there are probably important aspects that they don't know about coasters from other companies.

And another thing, Arrow more than likely made the third train. Why would B&M put their logo on the train, IF they worked on it? B&M didn't design or build the train, so what would give them the right to take the train, and somehow put their logo on it? If you provide photos of this, than I, and probably other people, with believe you, but until then, I remain very skeptical.

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I am not commenting on anything about who did work on what...I am only commenting that Arrow doesn't own the ride, SFMM does, and if B&M did work on the cars (I am not saying they did or didn't) and B&M asked SFMM to put their logo on the train and SFMM approved it, Arrow could not do anything about it...

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B&M seems to have a very good relationship with Six Flags, so I wouldn't be surprised if, after hearing about all the Arrow difficulties, B&M offered to come in an do some consulting work on how to improve the trains for a low price/maybe a favor down the road.

I've noticed for a while that car 7 on train 1 (I believe it's train 1, it might be 2, but I'm pretty sure it's 1) is car 1 from train 3. If this is an issue with one of the cars getting goofed up and causing the train to valley, I wonder if they were having that problem with car 1-7 and cannibalized car 3-1. Given that the ride generally (9 times out of 10) stacks with two trains running, I can imagine that train 3 would be a great asset just being a storage point for spare cars when one of the normal cars starts having problems.

How can it stack when there's room for two trains in the station?

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Phantom Lives is right. B&M have done some consulting on not only the trains, but the ride itself. It's really not uncommon at all, you just don't hear about it. But with X, what *don't* you hear about.

And right again redman22, the ride belongs to SF. They could call in anyone from Togo to King Kong to work on *any* of their rides if they so choose.

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I'd still like some proof. There was a time when almost everyone "knew" that Drachen Fire was originally going to be designed by B&M, but that turned out to be false. I'm not denying that B&M worked on X, and I'm not saying that they did. I'm just skeptical and would like some proof. If I've learned one things from these coaster message boards is that the "sources" some peopler have, aren't the best at getting the inside information.

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Then don't believe it. B&M aren't going to put out a press release saying they worked on parts for X. No one's forcing anyone to believe anything, and it's not that big a deal anyway unless you've got a bit too much time on your hands.

But DWeaver...*if* Kong came to work on X, would he still have to wear that silly Santa suit they had him all dressed up in.....wouldn't mechanics' coveralls LOOK more the part...;)

exactly! ;)

DWeaver said:

Then don't believe it. B&M aren't going to put out a press release saying they worked on parts for X. No one's forcing anyone to believe anything, and it's not that big a deal anyway unless you've got a bit too much time on your hands.

I never said that anyone was forcing me to believe anything, and I don't expect B&M "to put out a press release saying they worked on parts for X." I'm interested in X, and the entire amusement industry for that matter, and I'd like to learn more about it. And in that process of learning, I'd like to make sure that the information I am getting is the truth. If B&M helped with X, hey that's great, and if they didn't, that's great too.

So many of us coaster enthusiasts complain when the "General Public" states wrong information, when some of post all this bull on some of these sites. Wrong information isn't rampant, but the General Public isn't going to be able to tell what is fact and what isn't when they visit these sites. Before posting next time, think that maybe some people don't believe everything they hear, and would like to get the facts straight.

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A little off topic, but do the trims affect the ride at all?

It is funny how the train didn't even valley in the areas where the valley floors were placed. I also think it is quite possible that B&M did do work for SF on the 3rd X train especially with B&M's good track record when it comes to building rides for SF.

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