What exactly counts as a credit?

More than fine! It totally solves the debate! Those who insist on counting a racer twice get to do that, and it satisfies those who are annoyed about people padding their record with dubious credits!
Mamoosh's avatar
There shouldn't be any debate. Each person is/should be free to count in which ever method they are most comfortable with.
Does anyone study Plato anymore? There is only one true coaster and the rest are just imperfect shadows or reflections of it. So your count is either 0 or 1...depending on if you have been on The Voyage yet or not. ;)
ApolloAndy's avatar
Why do people care what other people do with their own track records? Is this some kind of competition?

So what if I want to count each different time on every log flume and dark ride as credits (which brings me up to, like 9,107)? *** Edited 7/5/2006 10:41:09 PM UTC by ApolloAndy***


Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

Can you count the Reesee's Extreme Cup Challenge at Hersheypark, as a powered coaster? Even though I don't count powered coasters myself, it would be interesting to get another persons take on it.
To be a coaster I consider these to be among the requirements.

Power is applied to the cars EXTERNALLY, not by any mechanism within the cars.

Power is applied only during a relatively short part of the track. Gravity is involved along most of the track.

The cars are wheeled and travel along some kind of track although not necessarily upon rails.

The cars are not steerable.

The main parts of the track are dry (although a splashdown or brief water stretches are permitted). *** Edited 7/6/2006 1:14:18 AM UTC by Arthur Bahl***


Arthur Bahl

rollergator's avatar
"The main parts of the track are dry (although a splashdown or brief water stretches are permitted).

Have you ridden Timber Mountain Log Ride or Kersplash? Just curious...

Hail CBuzzer Mamoosh,


Mamoosh said:
DD as the name implies, are TWO seperate Dragons, each competeting with each other. Add in the unique computer control system, and each coaster, has a unique "experience" in the same seat, on each coaster for each trip up the lift hill.

That's how you see it and I have no problem with it. Do YOU have a problem with me counting the attraction as one credit?


It is obvious that coaster riders like to get some idea how their own experiences compare with others. I don't think the majority of CBuzzers find their riding "coaster count" a "contest".

I personaly find a "coaster count" of someone else as a "measure" to compare with.

THUS, as a "yard-stick" I want to know if the "yard stick" is really a 'YARD' stick, or a 'METER' stick.

Both are CLOSE, but do not accurately reflect each other.

So, "NO!", since this is an opion based discussion, I don't have any problem with you counting the attraction as one credit.

HOWEVER! Your coaster reputation, presence, and opinion, does have a reflection upon the whole industry.

My opinions, and many others on CBuzz, don't "count".

So, in YOUR opinion, does ONE ride on Fire, or Ice, count as a FULL ONE credit, or half a credit?

Why or why NOT, for this UNIQUE ride?

Why or Why NOT, should I not include both as a "water ride" after the announcement over the speaker!?

Maybe I "deserve" 2 extra credits because of at least one lap on each coaster after the announcement was made, before the rain even slowed less then most people take a normal shower?

People want to compare experiences. This isn't a big puzzle. The credit count issue will remain till everyone agrees on a standard that seems to mostly make sense.

Right now, there is no standard, and personal opinion gets a tad bit into the way.

Good luck!

rollergator's avatar
^ There will NEVER be a standard....unless and until you all decide to submit to my will en masse. ROFL! :)
Hail CBuzz Warrior RollerGator!


rollergator said:
^ There will NEVER be a standard....unless and until you all decide to submit to my will en masse. ROFL! :)


HAH! I never DISSAGGREEDED with YOU either. I think you are right, everyone dissagrees; and there will continue to NOT be any standard of comparison.

And, as such, there will be another 350+ new threads in '07 on the issue.

Thanks,!

Mamoosh's avatar
My opinion on this subject is no more valuable than anyone else's opinion. My method is my method and not a standard that I wish, expect, or demand anyone follow.

When the occasion arises that I happen to ask someone what their coaster count is and I hear their answer I never follow up with questions such as, "So...did you arrive at that total by counting Dueling Dragons as two?" or "Does that total include relocated coasters counted in each location?". Why? Because it is none of my business what their method is.

The "credit count issue" will never go away because it will be impossible for everyone to agree on an excepted method. This thread is proof of that. In fact I don't think there needs to be one method. As I've said repeatedly: everyone should be free to develope their own set of guidelines and not have to defend them.

Hail CBuzzer Mamoosh,


Mamoosh said:
My opinion on this subject is no more valuable than anyone else's opinion.

Your opinion is in FACT read, and debated more then many other CBuzz Warriors due to your own actions that create a "presence" here.


Mamoosh said:"When the occasion arises that I happen to ask someone what their coaster count is and I hear their answer I never follow up with questions such as, "So...did you arrive at that total by counting Dueling Dragons as two?" or "Does that total include relocated coasters counted in each location?". Why? Because it is none of my business what their method is."


You have no idea the sheer number of people with simimlar interests that also READ you comments?

It isn't any of YOUR business how OTHERS count their credits.

However, if YOU are going to publicly state your coaster count, why not also show YOUR OWN method for counting. What are YOU hiding from?


Mamoosh's avatar
Did you read page 2 of this thread?
Dang, Moosh. You got pwned!
Gosh, ya know I'd be hard pressed to even come up with a correct count no matter what system I decided to use.... So from now on, if I'm ever asked, I'll just say, "Around 100 or so... "

That work? :)


"It's probably in my basement... let me go upstairs and check" -Escher
ApolloAndy's avatar
The really tricky thing is when you start looking at rides like half-pipe(generally accepted as a coaster) and Avatar (generally not accepted as a coaster) which happen to be more of less the exact same ride.

Uh oh!


Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

Mamoosh's avatar
How is that tricky, Andy? Either count if if you want to or dont. The choice is yours ;)
ApolloAndy's avatar
Well, I count one but not the other, but Lord help me if someone asks me to justify it. ;)

Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

Mamoosh's avatar
You don't have to justify it.
ApolloAndy's avatar
Yeah, but I can't even justify it to myself. :-P

Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

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