What exactly counts as a credit?

I can think of things I like about different seats on a train. Should I count a ride in each seat as a seperate coaster?

^Yes!

Which means my track record is around 4000!

The whole moved but remains the same is an interesting point Rablat5. There are two on my track record like that. The first would be Lightning Loops, which then got separated and became Python at SFA. The other is Shockwave at Gadv. which became Batman the Escape. I did count both twice. So while the current record says 180 coasters, I guess you could say that I only have 178. Batman the Escape though had a different paintjob (before the current one), different colored trains, an enclosed station, and themeing, so that would make it different enough to count, right? So it's now 179:)[btw, I didn't remove the other one. I was just joking]. *** Edited 6/30/2006 6:20:09 PM UTC by Intamin Fan***

S:TE only counts as 3/4 because it only goes 3/4 of the way up the tower.

And also, it's not a coaster!

And if you rode dragster with the stumpy trains with theming, the long trains with theming and the long trains w/o theming, that's 3 different credits!

CWA (Credit Whores Association) Rule book. <paraphrasing since I'm blocked from their website>

Relocated coasters are just as different as two copies of a clone and are countable. Parallel and mirrored racers fall under the same rule. This rule only applies to "permanent" installations.

New trains don't make for an additional credit unless reversed (or a different riding position).

If you keep your own records you can count any way you please. If the site you use doesn't follow CWA rules report them immediately.

;)

How about repainted coasters?

Ok, so some of us are getting ridiculous with their suggestions, but I guess it just boils down to people counting how they want.

My record sits basically as a range right now, because of the way that racing coasters could be counted. I personally would lean with the following:

--If I rode one side of a racing coaster, then I would claim having ridden the coaster.

--If I rode both sides, I would want to count each side as a separate credit (unless it falls into the KW Racer classification (see above).

So, I think the range is something like 184-192, depending on how you count things.

I don't particularly agree with the relocated coaster counting if there has been no significant changes. To me, it is the same basic coaster, no matter where it's at. With clones, even though they are the same layout, they were created as separate coasters--i.e. separate track, metal, trains, etc. With relocated coasters, there is no new track, trains, etc. in a lot of cases--therefore, it's still the same basic ride, just in a different place. That's kinda along the lines of a travelling coaster, only it has less stops :) *** Edited 6/30/2006 8:01:51 PM UTC by rablat5***

New footers, new coaster. ;)

The more ways you count the more mile-stone coaster choices you can have.

-working on 300 again. *** Edited 6/30/2006 8:37:15 PM UTC by boblogone***

Personally, I think it all comes down to personal preference. When I was younger and rode the King's Island Racers, I wouldn't have counted it as more than one. However, now that there is one racing backwards, I think that it should count since it offers a different experience. Just my two pennies, which apparently as of lately is worth less than the actual value. http://biz.yahoo.com/usat/060510/13546559.html

Ok, here's my semi-serious contribution here:
The park generally seems to tell you when, in my opinion, a dual-track coaster should be counted as two "credits". If the park "names" each side of the ride, it's two rides. Gwazi is Lion and Tiger. Lightning Racer is Lightning and Thunder. Dueling Dragons is Fire and Ice. But, other racers aren't named ... Rebel Yell is Rebel Yell, Racer is Racer (although some smartass is probably going to tell me is's recaR), etc. etc.

Just my two cents.

^ Yea, but look at the types of coasters. All the ones listed as having named each track are newer rides, and all of them have a sort of dueling aspect.

Rebel Yell and Racer are both older "racing" coasters. And on Rebel Yell, each side has its own queue, and is distinguished by the labels "Forwards" and "Backwards". :) *** Edited 6/30/2006 10:03:10 PM UTC by rablat5***

I'm like others on here have mentioned I do it for the reason of keeping track of where I've been, and what I've rode.

But I get crap from friends because I count kiddie coasters! I have a 2-year old and a 5-year old, and I'm the primary rider with them, so I count them as a credit.

So Arthur, do what you want, count what you want. It should be for your use anyway. Everybody has their own method for doing counts, including me. *** Edited 6/30/2006 11:02:02 PM UTC by Floorless Fan***

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Intamin Fan said:

I can't think of any coasters in which I'm in control of the speed or braking.

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I can think of a few, but only one in the U.S. The new (as of last year) alpine coaster at Glenwood Caverns Action Park meets all the criteria of a roller coaster.

It is a full circuit, single car coaster that runs on rails and had a cable lift at the end of the ride to get you back to the station. It is NOT an alpine slide, the cars are attached to the rail. You are in complete control of the speed for all but the lift, station and track immediately before the lift.

It's a fun ride, nothing overly thrilling, but definately worth a try. I just snapped a bunch of photos of it on my trip out to CO last week. I'll hopefully get it added to the track record here when I get around to it.

Some opinions. If Exterminator is a coaster (which we all pretty much agree it is) then I would argue that rides like Devil's Den are as well. Take away the stunts and that's what you have left.

Racers -- If the experience is markedly different on each side -- 2 credits, otherwise 1 credit. (take separate credits for Rebel Yell, forward and backward)

Steel Phantom and Phantoms Revenge -- major differences (2 credits).

If it can be steered, don't count it at all.

As for other credit collecting other than coasters some good ones are:

Carousels

Drop towers

Water Rides (that you ride in regular clothes)

Darkrides

If you tear down one side of a racing coaster, do you still have a fully functional coaster standing next to it?

YES!

Then each side counts as a credit.

In reality,there are 3 racing coasters that only count as a single credit;

Kennywood's Racer

Blackpool's Grand National

Chapultepec's La Montana Rusa(Or whatever it's called).

All of which are mobius loop coasters, and cannot not operate if either side goes down.

I have a very conservative way of counting BUT it eliminates all of the gray areas, such as who/what exactly defines "markedly different"?

My method:

1]If I ride it, I count it.
2]No matter how many tracks it counts only as one.
3]No matter how different each track is it counts only as one.
4]If it is relocated in any manner I do not recount it.
5]If it receives a different running stock, is painted a different color, or placed inside a building I do not recount it.
6]I count only one per model of traveling [carnival] coaster.
7]I do not count new "experiences" i.e. turning a train or cars on a train backwards.
8]If it is 100% powered I do not count it.

With this conservative method I have managed to ride over 425 different coasters.

What if it's the same building but a different coaster?

I can only assume you're referring to Space Mountain 2.0. Honestly that's a tough one. While the layout remained the same all of the track [sans station, IIRC] was replaced. I guess I see that akin to [proper] wood coaster maintenance where over time most, if not all, of the wood track bed and rails are replaced. In that case no, I am not recounting Space Mountain. But I would not blame someone if they did, just as I would not fault someone for counting Dueling Dragons or Matterhorn as two.

IMHO so long as one is comfortable with how they count there is no right or wrong.

Space Mountain vs Space Mountain 2.0 = 2 coasters
Matterhorn = 1
Dueling Dragons = 2
Lightning Racer = 2
Gemini = 1
Racer vs recar = 1

Anywho, if Space Mountain weren't such a different experience now compared to what it was, didn't have so much updating, didn't have trains that felt noticably different... I would count it as one.