Valleyfair getting a new coaster or not???

Friday, July 14, 2006 12:22 AM
Patriot is sincerely awesome. Gotta ride it if you're ever in the area. I agree inverted are great rides, I just want to see the floorless coaster evolve more. I can see them dying out like the stand-ups did soon, whereas I can see inverted coasters sticking around for a long while.
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Friday, July 14, 2006 1:16 AM

Mamoosh said:
The older you get the more you'll dislike rough

Isn't that the truth. Anymore I can barely stand to ride a wooden coaster or an Arrow. Also if I already have the credit, I am likely to not ride a ride if it is rough ever again.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 1:55 AM
rollergator's avatar I typically don't mind an AGGRESSIVE wooden coaster, even if it IS a bit rough...sometimes they cross that line... ;)

Speaking of....how's VF's woodie? :)

*** Edited 7/14/2006 6:04:38 AM UTC by rollergator***

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Friday, July 14, 2006 9:51 AM
I rode B:TDK when it opened and I didn't find it to be rough but I did find it to be rather dull. The layout looked great but for some reason it didn't deliver like I thought it would. That and Hydra are probably my least favorite floorless coasters, with Kraken being untouchable.
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Friday, July 14, 2006 11:11 AM
rollergator's avatar See, I *notice* the vibrations on Hydra, B:TDK, Scream!, and more recently Dominator. The otrher day I even noticed some on FIRE Dragon. But "rough"? Not in my book...by B&M's HIGH standards maybe, but not in general....
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Friday, July 14, 2006 12:27 PM
B&M's newer rides seem to have a slight vibration which I find most interesting. I wonder why that is? Patriot, Hydra and even a few others I have noticed have that vibration.
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Friday, July 14, 2006 2:54 PM
Well, from what I've heard, there is a ton of dirt dug up in the back of the park. But that's only a rumor.
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Friday, July 14, 2006 3:40 PM
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Mamoosh said:
The older you get the more you'll dislike rough ;)

My 62 year old mother would disagree. She's ridden about 100 coasters and most people here would absolutely wince at what she would put in her top 10. But I still think the generalization is still *somewhat* true. Just not always. ;)

Anyway, B:DK is a weird fish. The rattle has been pretty much present since day one, as it is on most recent B&M's. Some days it will be worse than others so I think it's completely sensible that some folks are getting pretty good rides on the thing and others are feeling those vibrations pretty heavy.

That being said, I would never describe any of my rides on B:DK as "rough" as in "head-bangy." The math on the ride seems pretty close to perfect, its just the tracking that is a bit lackluster.

The outcome is a good ride at the top of the elements, just not at the bottom. For me, looping coasters are *made* in the transitions so it does hurt the ride a bit.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 4:10 PM
Not another flat at ValleyFair... Although Xtreme Swing is pretty fun. We need some decent inversions - Corkscrew is so painfully boring and plainly painful. I just hate it.

[I'm good at complaining, I'll keep going]

Wild Thing is terribly jerkey and boring. Excalibur has this HORRIBLE trim at the top of it and it releases the train when the front of the car is already at the bottom of the hill. High Roller... damn there's not much I can complain about. Why is it Worlds of Fun that gets the new coaster? I hate life.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 4:40 PM

+Danny said:
Dark Knight was definitely rough, but not unbearable. I found the same problem on Dominator, Scream!, and it was most distracting on Hydra. With Kraken being one of the smoothest coasters I've ever been on, it's just surprising that the rest of the newer ones are like that.

Dominator is the second smoothest coaster I have ever ridden, MF is still #1 and last I rode it, very smooth. So my top three are MF, Dominator, and Flight of Fear PKI. Thats not saying FoF is smooth, its just my third favorite coaster.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 7:50 PM

rollergator said:
Speaking of....how's VF's woodie? :)

*** Edited 7/14/2006 6:04:38 AM UTC by rollergator***


Well, it sure isn't rough. It's not allowed to go fast enough to be rough. High Roller has such great potential, but alas, CF chooses to trim it to death so it can't deliver what it wants to.

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:44 AM
I have to say floorless coasters are still looked over. I think Cedar Fair is the company to put them in at this point. Because they dont really have them at any of their parks, or better should i say built as credited to one. I think it was a very dull ride, meaning Hydra. Dominator is kinda falling to pieces but still kicks the crap out of the selection they have at Geauga Lake. When i first rode it i thought it was very smooth compared to now. And i just so happened to ride it opening year too.

But i can see cedar fair going invert as well it has been a good track record with them over the last few years. Talon, SB, and now Patriot are the few over the past years. The only one that isnt seemingly getting high marks at their parks is SB. So i guess if it aint broke then dont fix it. Although i would chose a different layout if they did. Cause Talon and Patriot look very similiar.

Plus ill give you an opinion on batman at six flags next week with a riding partner for moosh's sake. So then i can compare another floorless in the mix, but i would say dominator is the base of experience, but i believe it has some wheel problems, because one train looks like complete wheel replacement and the other looks like shabby wheels from years past. Dont know if i got the newer ones yet this year, but i still dont complain its a good ride to me.


Resident Arrow Dynamics Whore

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:12 AM
It's been a while...new job change and all...

Anyway VF, where are you hearing these rumors about Valleyfair getting a new coaster?

I have my hopes up too about this but you are the only one I've seen bringing up the subject.

I was there a couple of weeks ago and I saw no construction anywhere. And Xtreme Swing was not operating. Why? I don't know.

Yes! VF NEEDS an addition that isn't a flat ride!!! But for some reason the powers that be just continue to play the conservative card and go with the little upgrades.

...and to max out the trims to kill every potential ounce of fun in what they already have.

My thoughts continue to be that CF will send us a B&M invert. Since Patriot was a need at WOF with positive results, why not us too? I'm still hoping for an invert that flys over Thunder Canyon. I can imagine the Z-G roll going over the waterfall landscape.

They could also get rid of Excalibur and put in a woody Cyclone style or "Ghostrider". But VF needs a looper first.

Will anybody be there the 28th for Coaster Craze?


Thanks for another great season, VF!

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 9:41 AM
I also saw no construction when we were there on the 7/3, but then again I wasn't looking for it. Xtreme Swing was running one side however.
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Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:05 PM
Well, I want anything... and as much as the Zero-G-Roll sounds cool, I'd rather have a GG woodie that stretches out to the front of the park and back. That'd look cool rolling into the parking lot and seeing a huge overbanked turn right next to High Roller. By the way, I agree with all of your opinions about the roller coasters at Valleyfair.
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Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:19 PM
^^^I am planning on being at coaster craze. This event has not been very well publicized, any reason? I have only seen it mentioned on one other clubs site. It isn't even on the parks website!
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Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:24 PM
It is extremely cheap too $7.50 with a CF:LP pass (that's cheaper than the daily parking charge, which BTW is waved for the event if you arrive before 9am!)

Thinking about going, just have to see if it is in the cards to get away for that weekend.

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Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:21 PM
A bunch of people I know have been there lately and saw dirt and stuff by the Employee Parking lot... New coaster? I think not, but I can dream.
EDIT!!! 9:30 PM!!! 30-40 Markers have been spotted on the grassy knoll across from the waterpark! And by the way, Valleyscare props have started to arrive. Tombstones, Walls, Freaky Cool Stuff Etc. *** Edited 7/19/2006 2:29:50 AM UTC by VF--New-coaster07***
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Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:09 AM
You don't think that the markers could be for ValleySCARE? Nah, makes too much sense.
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Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:42 AM
No, we already know that the three haunted houses are in the Bumper Car building, the Game Warehouse, and in the Hi-Test Arcade. Besides, he also saw markers in Thunder Canyon.
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