Two more out the door at Geagua Lake?

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RatherGoodBear said:
^^^^^ Conngeaugaut Lake. I kinda like the sound of that. I think it's Algonquin for "meth-lab-death-trap with vanishing large humpbacked creatures."

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What a sweet concept! If done at GL, they've still got the dead waterpark and tram station for the homeless crackheads to crash and shoot-up in.

Authentic Zombies for Conneauga Lakes FrightFest 2008!
;)

After reading through all of these pages, I have one question to ask. We can all discuss about how Geauga Lake appears to be shrinking down back to its' original size, which we can justify amongst us because we understand that operating expenses need to be in line with their income. That is all fine and dandy for you and I, but how do you explain that to the general public? I'm sorry SF screwed up your park so now we are going to yank out a bunch of rides and now there is less to do for your money. I don't see the GP swallowing that pill too well.

Yeah, once people get used to having something, it's pretty hard to take it away, especially when they aren't given anything in return. Returning the park to "what it was" requires a bit more effort than simply pulling out a few roller coasters. So far, Cedar Fair hasn't made that effort.

The majority of the GP is spending their time at Wild Water Kingdom anyway. I belive and have said before that as long as they keep expanding and improving the waterpark, then the public will still come. There is no other waterpark of it's caliper for the cost of admission anywhere near by that I'm aware of. Especialy since Dover Lake Waterpark closed a few years ago.

I would agree with you on that, JasonHammond. So long as an actual expansion comes. So far, two rides removed, nothing new.

Why did Dover Lake Waterpark close?

- Jeff

^Wasn't making enough money.
Glassman did the same thing with the old Marc's Pizza Fun Time Theatre's, aka Chuck E. Chesse clones when he thought they're weren't making enough.

Dover lakes property was purchased by Peak Resorts, (who own Brandywine and Boston Mills and is being converted for Snow Tube chutes.

The park closed at the end of the 2005 season. Brandywine Ski Resort bought it and turned it into Tubing slopes that will open this year. Read More Here. Memphis Kiddie park was looking at possibly buying the Little Dipper they had because it had the original aluminum trains. But after finding out the cars were smaller and harder to get into, he changed his mind. So I don't know if anyone ever bought Little Dipper or not.

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Intamin Fan said:Wow, are the pictures of Dominator scarily similar to mine. Anyone reading this would say "Of course they would be. It's the same ride from the same year." No, what I'm referring to is the lack of riders. Except for the front-row, there doesn't seem to be many people onboard this world-class coaster (an overused term, but it fits Dominator) in crazy horse's pictures.

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Didn't crazy horse state that the pictures were taken earlier in the day? Geauga Lake was very busy by mid to late afternoon, both Saturday and Sunday. You figure the park had just opened at noon.

Dominator, as well as the other coaters, were pulling out with fully loaded trains.

I was there closing day and it was the busiest I had seen it all season. I was told it was even busier on Saturday.

Well in addition to saving money on operating expenses for these two rides the park also saves money in terms of staffing as well.

Then why stop at just those two rides? They can just keep on going until everything is gone.

If you have some master plan to run a profitable amusement park with no amusements, then I want in. :)

CF said from day one that the plan was to return GL to a traditional park. Buzzers debated and argued about what this meant at that time. This 17 page thread is nothing but an extension of the debate.

CF certainly may not be doing things as good as they could, but I think they've been pretty honest about their plans. And even if you do not think they have been honest enough, I think it is easy to see what those plans are.

The concern is whether this park can survive at all...especially the ride side. The key is to find the size, attendance, staffing, and operational costs that can be sustained at a reasonable profit levels. They clearly have not found that happy balance yet.

There is merit in the argument that the GP will not accept less ride options than what they have been accustomed to. But the point is that the business could not be sustained with these rides in place. GL was destined to fail as a 10 (?) coaster park. They may be destined to fail as a 3-4 coaster park too, but there is a chance, as history shows, that this could work.

Argument based upon pure emotion is not realistic. The best anybody can hope for is that CF finds a way to make GL profitable for the company. Otherwise, we will speak of this place in past tense.

*** Edited 9/21/2007 5:59:34 PM UTC by Jeffrey R Smith***

^I couldn't have said it any better. I 100% agree.

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Coasterbuzzer said:
I would agree with you on that, JasonHammond. So long as an actual expansion comes. So far, two rides removed, nothing new.

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Your count is a little bit low, I'm afraid. The monorail was also removed and the observation tower wasn't operational (does it ever work, or was it just the day we visited?).

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Jeffrey R Smith said:
CF certainly may not be doing things as good as they could, but I think they've been pretty honest about their plans. And even if you do not think they have been honest enough, I think it is easy to see what those plans are.

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I agree with most everything you said except that. And while they may have been honest with their intentions of returning the park to a more traditional style, they certainly were not forthcoming with their plans for ride removals.

I buy my season passes last year with no intentions of using the water park, only to find out later that two coasters are being torn out. Plenty of other stuff to do right? Yeah, there is. But it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth because I based my buying choice on what I expected to be there. When I visited, I go over by Head Spin and that area is a disaster. Ride removal I understand, but they totally made a mess of that area. Shame too, the rest of the park is gorgeous.

"Honest" to me would be GL saying...hey, we are removing rides that the park cannot support but wait until you see what we have planned in the future!" They never said anything.

I don't want specifics, just a general idea of their vision, just to let me know that there IS a vision.

I'll wait to buy my passes this year

I don't think they want to run Skyscraper with the way the park looks in that area of the park and last year they said they needed parts for. It's probably another one of those old rides that everything has to be custom made for now.

Don't forget Mr. Hydes Nasty Fall is gone now too. Not that it ever ran anyway.
*** Edited 9/21/2007 6:31:36 PM UTC by Jason Hammond***

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