Two more out the door at Geagua Lake?

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X Factor said:
Just like a so-called Southern California theme park that seems to have even greater woes than the former Ohio park but was saved?

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If you're comparing SFMM to the former SFWOA, "greater woes" is something that is very difficult to quantify, especially when each park is so completely completely different in situation. Total apples and oranges.

I'm would greatly miss the classic Big Dipper, but...it might be time to plan alternative Summer outings in Sandusky.

According to Screamscape, someone found survey stakes over in the bus parking-lot at KD, which is near Scooby-Doo and the driving school. Lance Photoshopped Dominator in, and well, it fits pretty darn nicely!

If we don't hear anything in the next few weeks, there's an ACE event which I've been invited to again the weekend of Oct. 13th. I'm sure some investigating can be done;)

There was also mention made of the fact that the GM of GL wasn't available for the Q&A or would walk away from any questions from participants in the GOCC event.

^You beat me to it I-Fan,I just checked the site & found the same info & according to the photoshopped photo of the ride's likely placement it looks like it'll fit in there fine with only a minimal loss of parking spaces.

At this year's TimberFest at MA, I had the pleasure of sitting next to the GM Camille for the last two rides. I asked her if we were going to see a new coaster next year and she said "...WW was '88, ST in '98, next year is 2008. I like 8s." When I said so we are going to see a new coaster she just smiled back and said "I like 8s".

As I live only 15 min. from MA I would welcome TH but hate to see it as a loss to another park. I was at GOCC's FFO last weekend and it was my first trip to GL. Had a great time there on all their coasters and could only imagine having X and SV there as well.

I will be at MA for their season close this weekend and will try to corner Camille about the rumors. I will also be watching for any signs of construction and post it ASAP.

Mike

Camile likes the number 8 when it's convenient...

1979 - Corkscrew
1988 - Wolverine Wildcat
1994 - Zach's Zoomer
1998 - Shivering Timbers
1999 - Big Dipper
1999 - Mad Mouse

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Well, she only mentioned the woodies, so that must mean that in 2008 they'll get a woodie. It's only logical. ;)

Zach's Zoomer is also a woody.

I only quoted what she told me. I rode the snot out of WW the year it opened and I know when the last 4 were built as I watched them go up. Any connection to what she said would be that WW and ST are the two largest in the park.

But I would take another woody just the same, Who doesn't like a good, big woody?

Mike

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Jason Hammond said:
Well, she only mentioned the woodies, so that must mean that in 2008 they'll get a woodie. It's only logical. ;)

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Take Villain!
;)

Well it looks like everything is coming to pass & that KD & MIA will be scoring new coasters for 2008 unfortunately at GL's expense.

I suppose that,since Dominator has a longer track layout & greater distance to travel to it's new home in Va. that it'll start coming down first.

I was talking to a maintenance guy at work and he said that their was soil testing and ground testing, Then I asked him if their was a coaster coming and he said " nothing is for sure and it's all rumors and speculation, He said no one knows for sure and the people that do know wont tell ". So pretty much nothing is confirmed and at this stage in the year it is all rumors.

^True but seasonal employees & maintenance personel general aren't informed about new ride installations being made in the parks.

With the markers showing up at KD in the general area where Dominator is said to be installed it seems like it might be a done deal as far as the relocations go.

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BATWING FAN SFA said:
Well it looks like everything is coming to pass & that KD & MIA will be scoring new coasters for 2008 unfortunately at GL's expense.

I suppose that,since Dominator has a longer track layout & greater distance to travel to it's new home in Va. that it'll start coming down first.

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Not to mention a park that opens earlier in the year.

So, two coasters in 06, two in 07, seems like a trend. What two coasters are on the chopping block next year*

*I say that only half in jest because I really am beginning to mistrust CF's plans for the park and I believe that the GP and locals will not be happy with more rides leaving. Also, I think that perhaps a certain Pittsburgh Park could really play up the angle about how they add a ride every year while maintaining their history.

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Touchdown said:

...perhaps a certain Pittsburgh Park could really play up the angle about how they add a ride every year while maintaining their history.

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Nah... "the park that's closer doesn't come close." Remember? ;)

I looked at the ride and show mix for the lower attended parks of the CF chain here it is:

MiA ($24.00): water park (included), 4 up-charge attractions, 6 kiddie rides, 15 flat-rides, 6 coasters (2 kiddie coasters), 3 water rides, 0 shows

WoF ($49.95 combo ticket): water park (separate fee), 3 up-charge attractions, 12 kiddie rides, 19 flat-rides, 6 coasters (1 kiddie coasters), 3 water rides, 5 shows

VF ($35.95): water park (included), 3 up-charge attractions, 12 kiddie rides, 21 flat-rides, 7 coasters (1 kiddie coasters), 3 water rides, 6 shows

GL ($26.95): water park (included), 3 up-charge attractions, 12 kiddie rides, 18 flat-rides, 8 coasters (1 kiddie coasters), 3 water rides, 3 shows

If the 2 rumored coasters get removed, GL attraction mix will be similar to WoF at over $20 less to enter, even though it’s attendance is rumored to be comparable to MiA.

To me that indicates that the removals will probably end after these 2 coasters and the rebuilding will probably begin. Also the value of these rides will be transferred from the receiving parks to GL, because each park is it’s own legal entity own by the parent company.

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kpjb said:Nah... "the park that's closer doesn't come close." Remember? ;)

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How can we forget -- Jeff and I ranted about that in the podcast, even :)

The really funny thing is, that campaign completely backfired on them. I know every one of my nonenthusiast friends that saw that ad (especially the billboard just down the street from Kennywood itself) was flat-out mad at GL for that one. "You can advertise, but don't attack MY park!" was the typical reaction. Among my friends, that ad was responsible for more visits to KENNYWOOD, not GL...

^Good point & there very well could be something more suitably planned in terms of a new ride for the area where Dominator & Thunderhawk currently sit.

Yeah... weeds.

Alternatively having those rides out of that area also opens up some space to revamp/widen some of the congested sections of the midway. I wouldn't count on a new ride to replace any of the rides removed until ROI justifies it. What they are doing with the park actually makes sense and may be only part of the eventual 5 year plan for the park. I am not saying the park will be around 5 years from now...but I am not saying it wont be either. If their 5 year plan is to make the park more of a family oriented park, wouldnt you actually remove some of the non-family oriented rides and revamp the areas around them into something that is family oriented? What about giving Geauga the Nickelodeon treatment now that they opened up a nice swath of land where they could do that. And then market the heck out of that to families and you could watch the numbers rise visitors as well as per person spending. But first you need the space to do it, then you need the ROI to justify it, then you need to do it and market it. Just some random rambling thoughts.

^ Please don't interpret this is a personal attack (because it's not just you), but if I see someone mention ROI one more time, I'm going to heave my computer monitor out the window and onto the parking lot below.

It's sad when people on a coaster enthusiast site mention ROI more than airtime ;)