track sighted at Cedar Point!!
They tried that once.
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The worst day at Cedar Point is better than the best day at work.
PLayerPunk said:
How is the hydraulic equipement changed so that it can launch faster? Can Xcelerator be launched at a higher speed?
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LeWiS
http://schwarzkopf.coaster.net/videodownloadGF.htm
at schwarzkopf's website it has a video of how. Scroll down to greezed lightnin at SFAW. The video in the middle shows the launch. My guess is that they simply make the motor spin faster.
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Six Flags, the only chain of parks that can manage to have stacking with a one train operation.
What ever it is i know that i will be great!
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Raging Bull= 107
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Six Flags, the only chain of parks that can manage to have stacking with a one train operation.
CP really loves to watch enthusiasts do everything they can to figure out what a new ride is gonna be. If i was a CP employee i would print this out and read the posts with my co-workers.
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Raging Bull= 107
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What can be better than spending a day at IOA???
This is a request for people who don't understand the physics that control the speed of a rollercoaster to please stop posting incorrect information. There are probably more posts with incorrect numbers than ones with valid information and that does nothing but cause confusion.
Many people have made posts similar to this: "the speed required to reach 456 feet is 117 mph... so if they launch at 122 mph instead, it will crest the hill going 5 mph"
The real physics work this way (all numbers will ignore friction/wind resistance):
speed required to reach 456 feet from ground level : 116.478 mph ... this will crawl over the hill at just less than 1/2 mph
increasing launch speed to 117 mph ... this will go over the hill at just over 11 mph
increasing launch speed to 122 mph ... this will go over the hill at over 36 mph!
These numbers might not look right to you at first... but they are right... the 117 mph launch results in a potential height of 460 feet (an increase of 4 feet compared to the 116.478 mph launch). The coaster will crest the hill 4 feet below its potential height, which doesn't seem like a big deal until you look at the physics : an object launched upwards will be travelling 16 feet/sec when it is 1/2 second away from stopping. During that final 1/2 second its speed will average 8 feet/sec which means that it will travel 4 feet. The end result of all that math tells you that a coaster that goes over a hill that is just 4 feet lower than the highest it could possibly reach will be travelling 10.9 mph as it crests the hill.
Feel free to ask me any questions you may have about these numbers.
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The worst day at Cedar Point is better than the best day at work.
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Werner Stengel: Ich sprich, denke und traüme Achterbahn!
Intamin is telling potential and current clients that XC max tested at 117 mph. But, during these tests, the train pulled -6 G's at the crest of the top hat style element. They are also stating the launch can go even faster than that given a longer launch area and some additional launching eqipment.
To make the pulley faster, they increase the speed in which the fluid travels through the jet like turbine. They do this by increasing the pressure on the fluid tanks.
And I would like to know how you people are computing these speed numbers when you have no idea how much the mass is on the trains... What if the trains are longer to help out with capacity? Does anyone here know the exact mass of a loaded Intamin Rocket coaster train??? I didnt think so....If the vertical ascent begins in the 50 foot area, 110 mph is PLENTY of speed to get the train over the rumored height of 420 feet. That should be sufficient enough for now
Patience guys and gals.. all will be revealed in due time
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I hear a train a comin'
Comin' round the bend :P
TR2k3....GET READY!
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117 mph = 171.6 feet/sec
171.6 feet per second will travel upwards for 5.3625 seconds (decelerating at 32 feet/sec per second)
average speed = 85.8 feet/sec... multiply by 5.3625 seconds = 460.1025 feet
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I just ran the numbers using 32.15 feet/sec per second for the deceleration and that does give your answer of 457.956 feet
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probie
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Chris Godsey said:
Intamin is telling potential and current clients that XC max tested at 117 mph. But, during these tests, the train pulled -6 G's at the crest of the top hat style element.
(snip)Patience guys and gals.. all will be revealed in due time...
First, -6g....wow...that's too much air, even for ME...
Second, if we had patience, there wouldn't be 13 pages of "speculation" ALREADY....based on a track sighting....
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"It was sure nice of Mr. Krabs to give me a job here!" "And at $50 an hour too! When I started, i had to pay Mr. Krabs $100 an hour!"
Chris, gravitational acceleration is the same regardless of mass. We were just trying to get a ball park figure because someone asked if 122 mph would be able to get the train over a 456 foot hill about 3 or 4 pages ago. Now we are debating 1/2 mph and carrying out decimal points.
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The worst day at Cedar Point is better than the best day at work.
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Mike "Viper" Semtak
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Werner Stengel: Ich sprich, denke und traüme Achterbahn!
Closed topic.
