Statement from Holiday World
I had been looking forward to SRM as my first enthusiast event all winter; I decided to skip it only a few weeks ago, as my kids are too young to make the long trip for just a weekend. My prayers go to all of the family and friends of the deceased, and for the folks at Holiday World.
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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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*** This post was edited by SFgadvMAN 6/2/2003 4:17:06 PM ***
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Joe Cernelli
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Shedding off one more layer of skin, keeping one step ahead of the persecutor within.
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The tastes of tears has never come so bitter as today, but I wish not for us to hold in depression. If, but once, in this sadden field, may all the tears which flow from us now bring forth a meadow of memories to the ones which the victim loved.
I don't know how, but somehow the comradeship of Coasterbuzz could foregather our concern into a message of sympathy. By this, I mean tangible, in a broad sense atleast.
Paula, is there anything which our community could show, wear, compose, or send to the victim's family and loved one?
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Lake Compounce-So Fresh and So Clean Clean
I was Sooo shocked when I heard this! I had plans on going to Stark Raven Mad this year but my plans were cut short due to other circumstances. When I read this I went straight to my room and ended up just crying myself to sleep. I haven't been able to get that pit feeling out of my stomach since this happened. And guys it dosen't matter how it happened the fact is it happened and we have lost a fellow enthusiast! And losing one of our group is more important than you not being able to leave your lap bar up a few clicks!
My heart just aches for this womens fiance, family, and friends! I pray that God be with them. The only thing I can say is that at least she died doing what she loved! We will move on and I am curiouse to see what ACE will do with this. I pray that we have an event or sell something in memory of her and give all procedes to the family! that would be the right thing to do! But again don't let this put a dark shadow over The Raven it is still the worlds #1 Wood Coaster! AND Holiday World we stand by you and we thankyou for your standup job in everything you do! All our Love and prayers!
Nathan Slater & Family
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THE SCARIEST PART OF THE RIDE IS THE LIFT HILL!
That link that ThePhantomLives posted, shows exactly why this was doomed to happen sometime. As in the others I am not being insensitive, but I am coming to reality in the fact that you knew sooner or later this would happen.
My deepest sympathies go out to all those invloved, and the family of the deaceased.
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Addicted and I LOVE IT!
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Addicted and I LOVE IT!
(Copied from my post in another topic: )
Coming from an employee of a park that also was hit with a senseless death in the past year; I can feel for the Koch family, Paula, and all the HW employees. I know how I felt that night, and the next day. Stunned... in total disbelief.
While our park's incident was a result of mother nature, it would seem that this was the result of an individual. That makes this even more of a shame.
If anything good will come of this, perhaps it will be that people will never think that they're "above the rules." Whether you're an employee, enthusiast, or even the designer of the ride, nobody is a "better rider," nobody can overcome basic forces of nature for which these safety measures are put in place. To lose sight of that would be the real shame.
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Come on, fhqwgads
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First, I have a new found appreciation of the 'enthusiast family' that we have become and a great admiration of the Koch family. Never in my years have I ever seen about 600 or 700 people grow immediately silent when a person asked 'can everyone hear me'. Unfortunately, Pat's words were all too clear...'we lost one of our own'.
If anything positive comes of this situation, it needs to be that we all realize that 'life is a valuable gift' and we should all cherish that gift.
My thoughts and prayers to the family of the deceased, her fiance, and the family that is Holiday World.
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Fever
I really enjoy the Simpsons. It's just a shame that I am starting to LOOK like Homer.
kpjb said:
The photo link from PhantomLives proves NOTHING... you can clearly see the yellow safety line to the right of the train. This picture was taken in the station and does not necessarily mean that the rider was permitted to depart with the lap bar in that position.
First time poster on CoasterBuzz, but I have to point something out: http://www.themeparkreview.com/srm2002/hw86.jpg Holiday World does allow one-click rides, so please, don't be so quick to shoot down someone.
We know this is tragic. We know this shouldn't have happened to an enthusiast that very likely did know how to do a one-click without getting hurt. But still, it is pretty unsafe in my opinion to leave the bar that high. A seatbelt alone doesn't do that great a job, really. But not to go into this debate over the safeness of one-clicks. We know they're gone, so let's focus on the grieving of the enthusaist who lost her life doing the thing that she loved: riding a coaster.
Per what Pat Koch reported to SRM attendees on Saturday night, the ride came back with the rider gone and the seatbelt undone. I would never attempt to ride The Raven or The Legend without the seatbelt locked. I don't know what happened here, but if any rider on that ride openned their seatbelt he or she would probably fall out of the ride due to the airtime friendly hills on it. Perhaps, what is needed is an automatic stop of the train if a seatbelt ever comes unlached or is unlached on purpose. I know this can be expensive, but if some people can't control themselves, then maybe the park has to do it for them by automatically stopping the ride with an air braking system of some kind if a belt is unlached.
My sympathy goes out to the deceased's family and especially to the Koch family and all of the Holiday World family. We have never been so well treated at a coaster event as we were by the Koch family. They run an excellent park and put on one excellent SRM event. Its a shame that this tragedy casts any shadow on Holiday World. We are proud of the Koch family and Paula Werne for all they have done for coaster enthusiasts like us. Keep up the good work and know that our prayers are with you and everyone suffering from this unfortunate incident.
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We can't buy more time, cause time won't accept our money. -Bad Religion
The second thing that really really troubles me, is to hear that the seat belt is the primary restraint. All this time I had thought that it was the lap bar. From my point of view, if you have a redundent restraint system, EITHER restraint should be able to hold in any rider throughout the duration of the ride. If either one can't do that, based on rider's weight, G-forces, etc., then in my opinion that restraint is a failure and some other design should be tried. Also, it's very problematic to rely so much on a restraint that can be undone by a rider. I've always thought that. Even more so now. And it does seem odd to me, that with the technology of today, we are still relying on 50+ year old technology to keep people safe. There's got to be a better solution then what we have now.
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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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