Starliner gets new life at Cypress Gardens

Posted Friday, July 20, 2007 9:20 AM | Contributed by Jeff

The Starliner, one of Florida's classic scream machines, is rolling again. The coaster, which opened in 1963, has been dormant since the old Miracle Strip amusement park near Panama City closed in 2004. It was relcoated to Cypress Gardens.

Read more from The Times Union.

Friday, July 20, 2007 9:54 AM
If Starliner hit's 70 MPH, My names George Washington.

I keep seeing that number spouted as it's speed. Perhaps Kent's exaggerating?

Chuck, glad the coasters found a new home :)

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Friday, July 20, 2007 10:53 AM
Dude what are you talking about it says height 70 and speed 55.
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Friday, July 20, 2007 11:11 AM
The article says, The Starliner peaks out at 70 feet high and reaches speeds of 70 mph..
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Friday, July 20, 2007 11:42 AM
Now the Starliner is back, at its new home at Cypress Gardens in Winter Haven. It took $4 million to purchase and move the coaster, according to a news release from the park. The design has been changed slightly, with higher banks and a sharper curve. The Starliner peaks out at 70 feet high and reaches speeds of 70 mph.

Dude, What's that say? and I've seen it in other articles as well.

Chuck

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Friday, July 20, 2007 12:48 PM
That seems crazy expensive for a used wood coaster.
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Friday, July 20, 2007 1:30 PM
Depends on what your looking for I guess Jeff.

The coaster has a long history and low maintainence cost compared to some of the newer gen out there. Im sure feasability studies and other things added to the cost of just moving and rebuilding.

Yeah, You could build a new coaster for 6 million and probably have a better one on your hands But I think Kent was at least partially into the preservation of this ride to do it.

Chuck

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Friday, July 20, 2007 1:36 PM
Is that based on your survey of maintenance budgets for wood coasters?
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Friday, July 20, 2007 1:42 PM
Well if anything, the coaster is known in the area. So for marketing purposes. But I'm sure they could have designed a copy. But how much do original designs cost?

Still, sounds like someone designed some modifications.

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Friday, July 20, 2007 2:19 PM
Compared to voyage? Uh, Yeah. It's a out and back that probably needs a couple sections a year replaces which is normal.

I also think it's a family ride geared to a family park.

Chuck

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Friday, July 20, 2007 3:00 PM
It probably hit 70mph coming down I-75 to central florida :)
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Friday, July 20, 2007 3:05 PM
$4 million may explain why Ken is overspending in multiple areas. That is way too much for a used coaster. You could have gotten a new ride for $4 million. Sounds like an inflated figure, and a GM holding the books.

That must be a hell of a tailwind taking that train to 70mph. I was thinking like 45mph, which is still respectable. mathematically impossible. Still, its great to have a wood coaster that is a proven good ride.

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Friday, July 20, 2007 3:14 PM
Haha SixFlagsKingdaKa! You're funny, but I'm SURE thats the fastest the *Starliner has ever gone in its LIFE! lmao =o>---- And in Recent news... Raging Wolf Bob's Get a New Life at Miracle Strip Amusement Park! As Quoted, "This was a $4 million dollar investment, and year it... it goes 70 mph... have fun!" ::rolls eyes:: it would be like hearing that for some! I love it...
*** This post was edited by xX eNeRtIa Xx 7/20/2007 3:27:12 PM ***
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Friday, July 20, 2007 3:35 PM
I imagine the labor costs in dismantling and rebuilding a wood coaster far exceed those associated with a steel because of the time involved. Still, the $4,000,000 does sound like a case of exaggeration for the sake of marketing.
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Friday, July 20, 2007 3:43 PM
One thing to think about. Florida is very much a hurricane state, and moving this coaster may have involved slightly more than taking the old coaster apart and trucking it to the new location. I'm certain building codes have changed since Starliner was first built, and that may be some of the additional costs associated with the move.
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Friday, July 20, 2007 4:08 PM
Agent Johnson exactly makes my point. And furthermore, if you talk to those currently engineering wood coasters, they'll tell you that they're specifically designed to require less maintenance than they used to, especially the steel structured ones.
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Friday, July 20, 2007 8:24 PM
Its so nice to see that another wooden coaster is saved . I thinks that so cool! It looks like its a very good ride. I hope it does very well in Floridas Cypress Garderns.
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Friday, July 20, 2007 9:09 PM
I know that Cypress Gardens bulldozed their kiddieland and relocated it with a new theme to "Bugsville", I wonder if that was in the price, too, and the reporter missed it.

Didn't Ken buy a new train for Starliner, as well?

Anyway, glad to see it running again.

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Friday, July 20, 2007 10:07 PM
Trains are $90,000 - $150,000. Cypress Gardens isn't busy enough to warrant more than 2. A year round operation is not going to require 2 trains non stop every day.

Kiddieland reloacation is an 'expense', not a capital project. You can't finance 'expenses'. That can be done day to day moving kiddie rides. Most competent staffs could move 1-2 rides a day, once cement pads are cured and electric is finished. CG isn't open to the wee-hours, so they don't need to wait for dynamic lighting, etc.

Their entire capital budget for fiscal 2007-08 may be $4 million, but highly unlikely with bankruptcy settlements and finalizing insurance recovery payments.

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:14 AM
Great to see Starliner saved. When it was at MSAP, the tunnel bunny hop was the best airtime ever conceived on a woodie outside of Knoebels. Heck yeah worth 4 mil. ;)
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