Son of Beast closes

Wood cannot be used for housing or any housing structure. It is Acid washed. The guys who walk the coaster are basically dressed like firemen

Weird, my house is made of wood. And acid washed? Like your jean jacket?

Charles, I think you meant to say pressure treated wood instead of acid treated. Here is exactly what it is:

Pressure treatment is a process that forces chemical preservatives into the wood. Wood is placed inside a closed cylinder, then vacuum and pressure are applied to force the preservatives into the wood. The preservatives help protect the wood from attack by termites, other insects, and fungal decay.

Waterborne, Creosote, and Oil-borne (penta) are the three broad classes of preservatives typically used when pressure-treating wood.

Wood treated with waterborne preservatives is typically used in residential, commercial and industrial building structures. Creosote is primarily used for treating railroad ties, guardrail posts, and timbers used in marine structures. Oil-borne (penta) is most often used for treating utility poles and cross arms.

^^^ I had a similar thought. I have read so many bad things about SOB that I will be happy the day I find out that it is being removed even though I have never even been to KI. People on message boards almost never agree on anything but there seems to be an overwhelming majority who think SOB is a piece of junk. That leads me to believe that it probably is.

No, The wood on SOB has a treatment in it that is corrosive, Mold resisting and seeps.

I've been on morning coaster shoots on both Beast and SOB where we had to wait for the ride inspection to get done.

Beast the guys were in Jeans and a T shirt, Tool belt and work boots. Theres video of the guy who did it for 20 years somewhere.

The guys returning from checking SOB had heavy overals, jackets, thick gloves and I asked em about it. Its presure treated with something that litterally will eat on your skin like battery acid.

Chuck, not knowing why I can't log in on Firefox so I can spell check and quit getting this bunched up text that only fixes after I edit the message :)

Since when Do you Care about Proofreading? ;)

I'm wondering if SBNO next year is still an option on the table. It seems like they already will have a decent amount invested in removing/updating Nick. I wonder how much attention/complaints they would get if they just let it sit for a year.

Chuck, not knowing why I can't log in on Firefox so I can spell check and quit getting this bunched up text that only fixes after I edit the message :)

Chuck, the site was doing the same thing to me, I browsed the "suggestions" forum and found that at least one or two others had resolved it by going thru the plain text instead of html. Worked for me - and now I can get paragraphs breaks (without even editing)...

....like this! ;)

I just wish I could figure out why I can't paste a link into a thread and get it to work anymore....

I used to have problems with copy and paste as well. If you paste to Notepad first then re-copy and paste it to here, you should be ok.

I can assure you that I've not changed anything.

Jeff, I don't doubt it for an instant.

Jason: thanks for the tip. I tried it, but even that didn't work for me. *Sigh* I'll have to do some experimenting.

Charles, I did some research and it looks like the wood is treated with boric acid. While considered "safe" and used both residentially and commecially it does have potential side effects if repeatedly exposed thus why the maintenance team wears the protective gear.

Seems like a nightmare scenerio to me with the ride and this tid-bit of info is the icing on the cake to build something new from scratch. I am still calling for a B&M inverted : )

I wonder if CF/KI may be waiting to see what SFlags does with the big '10M - 1 year renovation' of the Texas Giant, and see if that helps for that ride. I guess it's quite different now that I think about it. The Giant was incredible the first year, and pretty good for a few years after that (Mean Streak was also fast, smooth, and pretty sweet that first year too).

Any more thoughts on Intamin plug n play track, anyone think it would work?

CoasterDemon said:
Any more thoughts on Intamin plug n play track, anyone think it would work?

The general consensus is that the Intamin track is not a viable option.

1. Because the track is designed differently than standard wooden track, all the existing supports would have to be heavily modified. This would be hugely expensive and be a liability disaster.

2. Since the Intamin track is precision machined in a factory, you would need to generate accurate blueprints from the current SOB structure. After 10 years of modifications and weathering, this would not be feasible.

3. Even if it were technically doable, Intamin seems to be plenty busy these days.

My understanding is that retrofitting a standard coaster with Intamin PnP track would be just as difficult as retrofitting it with B&M steel track.

Let's say your friend bought a car in 2000 and in the nine years since it's been nothing but trouble. It requires constant maintenance (a major drain on his wallet) and is so poorly built it actually injured some of his passengers.

What would you do? Suggest he continue to pump money into a lemon? Suggest he take parts from other cars in an attempt to fix it? Or would you tell him to get rid of the car?

It's really kind of funny when you put it that way moosh. It puts it in a completely different perspective.

Boric Acid is a pesticide. I don't know if the same stuff resist mold. The wood was also soaked in vats for 30 days to make the stain last 30 years.

Another aspect to consider is that even if they do demolish the coaster, I would think they would want to keep the queue and station which are rather elaborate. The spot on which it sits seems like it suits a coaster and nothing else. (ok, ok maybe a monorail too ;))

mlnem4s said:
I am still calling for a B&M inverted : )

It could even have a vertical loop and double helix.

Boric acid is a pesticide, you are correct and it comes from borax which is a low toxicity mineral. It is a naturally occuring substance in nature and is considered "safe" to use treating wood to prevent infestation by bugs as well as preventing dry rot. I suspect it is used mostly in Southern homes possibly.

Borox IS safe. I use in my cat's litter boxes to help control the smell.