Six Flags Guest "Code of Conduct"

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Please don't boot me over this other wise your letting me know I'm getting to you.

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It has nothing to do with getting to me or anyone else. It has to do with making noise and cluttering up valid forum topics with crap. No one wants to read it and it lowers the quality of otherwise valid discussion. Hence, the Terms Of Service (Wow, been a while since we had to pull that link out :) )

Again. Let it go.

Back to the topic on hand. The t-shirt thing can be a problem. Unfortunately, too many people think that they should be controversial, political, or provocative with their t-shirt slogans or artwork. One of the worst offenses I've ever seen of this was at SFA in year two. A rather imposing man was wearing a t-shirt with the Peanuts characters engaged in all kinds of sex acts. Why did he get into the park in the first place, and who were the idiots who let him walk around like that all day?

Sorry to pick on Holiday World, but what about the t-shirts that Paul posted on negative-g.com? The t-shirts that said "My son is a credit-whore," and "My dad is a credit-whore." Not exactly very family-friendly out of the context of an enthusiast event.

The ultimate problem is defining what is offensive. Is it bad language? Is it provacative images? Is it political or lifestyle speech that puts down another person or group? Is it language that refers to something else completely, like the Big Johnson shirts, or the "Got Wood?" shirts. I wouldn't want to be put in charge of that.

I agree with you I Fan. And can you imagine the nightmare this is going to cause if SF decides to enforce this at the main gate? I can just see people arguing with security becuse they feel that their shirt isn't offensive, but SF says it is. Or how about a group that comes together, but one is refused entry because of an offensive shirt or improper clothing?

I think SF has the right intentions here, I just don't see how it will be enforced across the board in a fair and equitable manor.

I am curious to see the employees "code of conduct." "Don't curse at or around guest!" should be in there somewhere. ;) "Don't blow off guests when they have an inquiry or complaint" should be in there as well.

Also "don't talk on your cell phone telling your friend how much you hate your f****** job while checking restraints" and "do not smoke if you are not on break" should be in there as well. ;)

"Enforce the rules" is not NEARLY forced enough on the employees sometimes. If management doesn't care if a guest smokes in line then why should the employees?

The apathy starts at the top. I have seen other guests do more to enforce the "no smoking in line" policy more than the employees. ;)

-Tina

*** Edited 10/19/2006 1:31:57 PM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***

I'd like to see these parks get a full time police force like SFWOA had. As well as a security force too.

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coasterqueenTRN said:The apathy starts at the top. I have seen other guests do more to enforce the "no smoking in line" policy more than the employees.

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...and the no line cutting as well.

Don't know that I've ever seen a guest ask another guest to put a shirt on though...so maybe the "ignore it and it will go away" credo has its limitations? :)

Anticipated enforcement levels:
April/May, 30-40%
June, 25-30%
July, 15%
August, 10%
September..."who cares, I am SOOO over this job"... :)
*** Edited 10/19/2006 2:40:48 PM UTC by rollergator***

I think I read somewhere that SF does give you the option to turn the shirt inside out or (happy for them) buy a T-shirt at the park and wear that.

I'm not sure where I stand on this. I like to see a fair playing field, with rules enforced so everyone can have a good time. But, in this day and age, that's not always easy. Yes, you arre paying a lot of money to get into the park, but you ARE warned that you can be asked to leave if you break park rules. It's not like it comes out of the blue.

I'm gonna go watch the Maverick webcam now...

You guys are at the parks more then the adverage person so I must ask.

Are they having that big of a problem?

^ SFGAdv applied to USPTO to get a TM for the name "Line Jumping Central"....so the answer is an unqualified YES! ;)

Does make me wonder why Q-Bot sales are SO strong when the lines only exist for those WILLING to wait anyhow...

How long it will be before we see a smoke-bot, a shirt-bot or a curse-bot?

"Pay $20 and this new age technology device will do all your cursing for you."

Shirt Front: Want to ride a woodie?
Shirt Back: Texas Cyclone Six Flags Astroworld.

I always get the 'shocked' look when I wear that shirt (doesnt help that it's also fire engine red). I wonder if that would be considered 'offensive'?
lata, jeremy
--who notes that the pocily does not specifically mention double entendre

I don't see a problem with this at all.

Six Flags says no more line jumping, no more disorderly behavior, no more smoking in non-smoking areas, no more offesnive clothing. They don't say there'll be any less of it, just no more. :)

What always cracks me up about these Six Flags press releases is they seem to be expecting everyone to say "well gee, aren't you wonderful." What they're proposing is nothing earth shattering, just what most parks have already been doing for years. But they make it sound like they just invented sliced bread.

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ApolloAndy said:
How long it will be before we see a smoke-bot, a shirt-bot or a curse-bot?

"Pay $20 and this new age technology device will do all your cursing for you."

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LMAO! I can see the little messages pop up on the Bot now... "Hey s***head, it's your turn to ride Ka! Get your f****** *** to the queue, NOW!

I think since Six Flags is having so many financial troubles that trying to enforce this new policy is probably going to come back and bite them in the butt.

These rules affect the "good" people as well as the "bad" ones. They end up offending and affecting good people who are just there to have a good time. Theyre gonna end up losing more money than making it because they will get people who will go elsewhere. People wanna have a good time and not be constantly worrying if what theyre doing is going to get them in trouble.

The last thing a struggling park needs is a bunch of silly rules and employees running around like police trying to enforce them. That really turns people off.

They should have the bare minimum rules to keep the park safe and beyond that just let people do what they will. There is no way they can make their park some wishy washy, warm n fuzzy, disney-like world. People that want to cause trouble will and there will always be someone doing something that will offend somebody, its just life.

If you dont like something you see, just look the other way, ignore it and enjoy your time at the park. Dont let the little things bug you.

According to the park guide, these rules have been there for a while. The "good" people probably don't violate them anyway.

Alot of good people enjoy going shirtless/barefoot to the park. These rules get rid of the gang members and such but they also turn away alot of the younger people who come in and just want to have a good time. All in the name of being "family friendly" which basically translates to them wanting to ban anything that they dont personally like.

The only reason they use the family friendly slogan is so they can have an "official" reason for such rules without saying that theyre just doing it to keep people from doing stuff that offends them personally.

I hate to tell them but these rules are gonna scare away the families too.

Besides how do families with young kids have fun at a park that is mostly a bunch of fast rollercoaster rides that only older people can go on anyways? I mean I know theres a kiddie part there but I dont think it was ever meant to be a totally "family" park like Disneyland or Universal.

There is no reason to go outside of the water park areas without a shirt and shoes. It's a health and safety issue, to protect you, them and other guest. I know most, if not all rides require shirts and shoes. Many of the shows also require them also. And food concessions in many areas require shirts and shoes, which is sometimes mandated by state health department regulations.

I agree that maybe the offensive shirt slogan is going a little overboard, and truthfully, I have no idea how they are even going to enforce this, but I can see them trying to monitor for proper attire. I don't think they are trying to be kill joys here.

Shapiro wants SF to be the alternative to Disney. Will it ever happen? In the real world, probably not, but you got to give them credit for trying.

"There is no reason to go outside of the water park areas without a shirt and shoes."

Sure theyre is if youre comfortable and it saves you the trouble of not having to bring extra clothes. There doesnt need to be some imaginary line where being shirtless/barefoot is acceptable/offensive.

"It's a health and safety issue, to protect you, them and other guest."

If its so unhealthy/unsafe then why do people go shirtless/barefoot everywhere else and you dont see anybody getting hurt/sick? Thats a convient excuse to cover up for the fact that these guys have those rules simply because they dont like the sight of shirtless/barefoot people and they need some "official" reason to ban it that works so they wont seem like theyre being prejudiced or discriminatory. I dont need someone else to make rules to protect my saftey, I can do that myself.

" I know most, if not all rides require shirts and shoes. Many of the shows also require them also. And food concessions in many areas require shirts and shoes, which is sometimes mandated by state health department regulations."

That whole health dept thing is a myth, the only rules they have for dress apply only to employees of such establishments.

"I agree that maybe the offensive shirt slogan is going a little overboard, and truthfully, I have no idea how they are even going to enforce this, but I can see them trying to monitor for proper attire. I don't think they are trying to be kill joys here."

How or more importantly who decides what clothing/slogans on clothing is "offensive" or "proper"? Those rules are rather vague and basically leave it up to the personal discretion of the individual employees. I think they need to be more specific.

"Shapiro wants SF to be the alternative to Disney. Will it ever happen? In the real world, probably not, but you got to give them credit for trying."

They should just let Six Flags be Six Flags and not try to make it like Disney because it is NOT Disney nor was it ever meant to be.

Mike131, I respect your opinion, but I have to disagree with you on the shirtless/barefoot thing. They want you to wear shoes outside of the waterpark so that you don't injure your foot by stepping on something or when entering, exiting a ride. Could you still hurt your foot even if you were wearing them? Of course. Could you possibly injure your foot walking barefoot in the water park? Most probably. I guess it's just a way for them to reduce the liability on their part. Not that it would make much difference, but we both know that some risk management pencil pusher sees it that way.

As for the shirtless, I couldn't really care less if someone wants to walk around without a shirt on. But it's just like when you go to a gym, you wear a shrit when you use the equipment. My guess is that someone feels that you should wear a shirt when riding the rides for similar reasons.

And SF isn't the only park that requires you to waer shirts and shoes on rides. I know that PKD does it also, only I don't know how often it's enforced, but I have seen it done.

And I agree with you on how and who will determine what attire is offensive. That is going to give them nothing but headaches if they don't establish a level playing field. I wish them luck on that.

And finally, I believe you are right, Six Flags isn't Disney and I don't think they ever will be either.