Shanghai Disneyland will close in effort to contain coronavirus

Re-color all the orange and yellow to blue and, at the state level, it starts to strongly resemble the 2020 electoral map.

I've been staring at this image for the last 10 minute trying to figure out the narrative. The best I can come up with is an ominous red wave traveling from the south, with vaccination the only effective reduction agent. Although that isn't even holding up well as some highly vaccinated counties are in the orange and red while those with low vaccination rates are yellow or blue.

Funny. We just got an "all-call" from our district superintendent reminding parents that no one K-12 (teacher, staff, or student) will be required to wear a mask. Perfect timing.

The messaging to me still seems mixed. Is the science telling us that even if I am vaccinated the Delta variant has enough of a chance to make me moderately suck and/or make the odds of me being an asymptomatic carrier enough to start being cautious again? Or is this still a "because half the class didn't do their homework everyone has to skip recess" kind of thing?

Bakeman31092 said:

Re-color all the orange and yellow to blue and, at the state level, it starts to strongly resemble the 2020 electoral map.

And it's no coincidence.

OhioStater said:

Funny. We just got an "all-call" from our district superintendent reminding parents that no one K-12 (teacher, staff, or student) will be required to wear a mask. Perfect timing.

Which is complete crap since nobody K-5 is eligible for any of the vaccines. This will be the season of superintendents capitulating to angry parents because they are tired of hearing about it. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, even during global pandemics.

BrettV said:

The messaging to me still seems mixed. Is the science telling us that even if I am vaccinated the Delta variant has enough of a chance to make me moderately suck and/or make the odds of me being an asymptomatic carrier enough to start being cautious again? Or is this still a "because half the class didn't do their homework everyone has to skip recess" kind of thing?

You're right it's mixed, and it's totally the latter thing. If I'm a policy maker, I'm going out into the world and seeing few people wearing masks indoors, but I know that statistically at least one-third of the adults (or more) are not vaccinated. This is what gives me anxiety in the theme parks with my 11-year-old, because unsurprisingly the people not willing to get vaccinated give no ****s about wearing a mask on the honor system. But hospitals are filling up again (587 here in Orange County, closing in on the January high of 776), and our case count is double what it was in May. You can't make people get the vaccine (though fortunately employers and colleges can), but you can put this guidance out and businesses will happily enforce mask rules to minimize their own liability. It comes at the expense of those of us who know how to be grownups and get our shots, but it'll likely have a real effect.

I'm just !@^!ing exhausted. I reinstituted a mask mandate in all my buildings as of Monday. My vaccinated Admin Asst and her vaccinated teenage son both came down as Covid+ last week. Both are dealing with pretty severe symptoms (beyond the common cold) but have not been hospitalized. A 35 year old employee who "didn't believe in the vaccine" is now in the ICU after coming down with Covid and his pregnant wife and two children are awaiting test results.

I wanted to have a mindset of..."hey, you had your chance. If you get sick at work then that is on you." The problem is I can't stop worrying about a vaccinated employee picking up Covid unknowingly at work and then sharing it with someone in their circle who is not vaccinated. Not my problem...but I don't want to be the source or the opportunity that allowed it to occur.

For the love of God...just get the vaccine and, if asked, wear the masks. In our history Americans have made sacrifices for each other. We've volunteered for wars, women went to the factories to keep the war effort supplied. This selfish, privileged, "I need my emotional support ferret on a flight" generation has got to be one of the worst, by a long shot.

Sorry. I'm just pissed.

Here in Orange County FL we were provided "please wear a mask" flyers that all but say it's required for our building again.

I also dropped in on an outrageous thread in one of the WDW forums and they're all ready to go live in a bomb shelter with the lack of reasoning and common sense being thrown around.

I will say, at least for around Cleveland, is that I have been noticing more and more people at the grocery store and/or work starting to mask up again. Just in the past week or two compared to prior.

Just got an email from my workplace basically warning of upcoming changes per CDC. We follow our local NASA base / federal policies at my workplace, but Cuyahoga County is noted as "Moderate" right now, so no changes to us just yet from what we are already doing officially. But sounds like we will go back to masking up outside of our cubicle and cutting occupancy again on site unless we need to be there for testing/manufacturing support soon enough.

One of Diana's work friends is in the ICU (not vaccinated), now in an induced coma. His chances aren't looking good. His son is hospitalized separately. It's just an anecdote, but it feels closer this time. It's infuriating because we literally have a viable solution that's nothing short of a scientific miracle, if that's a thing.

I think the science still shows low risk for breakthrough infections, but I'm not going to have a mask tantrum if a business requires it. And maybe I wouldn't be so pissed if the anti-vax freaks weren't generally the same people who want to tell women what to do with their bodies or tell trans people where to pee. Tell me more about your freedom, idiots.

I don't know how you can see these statistics and still argue against getting the vaccine. I imagine that statistics from other states are very similar.

Statistics just released by the Ohio Department of Health...

Of the 6,846 total deaths caused by COVID-19 that occurred in Ohio from Jan 1., 2021 to July 21, 2021, 6,812 of them have been among individuals who were not reported to be fully vaccinated. That means that 99.5% of the people who died from COVID-19 in Ohio this year were unvaccinated.

Of the 17,129 total COVID-19 hospitalizations in Ohio over the same period, 16,924 were among individuals who were not reported to be fully vaccinated, ODH said. Out of everyone who was hospitalized for COVID-19 so far this year, 98.8% of them were not vaccinated.

Viewed another way, there were 205 “breakthrough” hospitalizations and just 34 breakthrough deaths among the population of 5.3 million fully-vaccinated Ohioans as of July 21, meaning just .0039% of fully vaccinated Ohioans were hospitalized for the disease, and about .0006% died.

To put that in perspective, your odds of dying from COVID-19 after being fully vaccinated in Ohio are about 1 in 166,666. Your odds of being struck by lightning at some point in your life are about 1 in 15,300, according to the National Weather Service. So you’re about ten times more likely to be struck by lightning than to die from COVID-19 after being fully vaccinated. How many people do you know who have been struck by lightning? Statistically speaking, you’d meet 10 people who have been struck by lightning before knowing a vaccinated Ohioan who died from COVID-19.

Sadly there is a very real segment of the population that won't get it because misinformation has them terrified to so so. And another very real segment of the population that won't get it just to stick it to the libs.

I knew it.

I'm surrounded by assholes.

Get vaccinated in secret to avoid backlash from friends and family. Totally warped.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/health/vaccines-in-secret-missouri/index.html

I was speaking to a young man recently who said that in his "community" (he's Afro-Caribbean, in his 20s, in NYC) people were being "shunned" for getting the vaccine.

Orange County back under state of emergency.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-coronavirus-orang...0#nws=true

I am not sure how the vaccine proof thing is going to work. Seems like those little cards would be easy enough to fake. If you aren't willing to get the vaccine seems like you would be willing to get a fake card.

Sigh. At this point, I'm really starting to get tired of all the drama around wearing masks. I'm bothered too much that the recommendation is changing. As the state of the pandemic changes, so will the recommendations. I get it. I don't see wearing a mask, despite being vaccinated, as much more than a minor inconvenience. Half the country, on the other hand, does everything they can to get out of getting the vaccine and or wearing a mask.

Heehee. Masks, no masks, etc etc. gripe gripe gripe.

The truth on all of this is that COVID is irrelevant, the real issue is climate change, not COVID. 74 million to die this century if we don’t fix climate change. So about 925000 per year. That should outpace COVID quite nicely.

This is all a diversion from what we should be focusing on, we should realign our priorities, but we have government who has more interest in padding their pockets then resolving actual world issues. I was more vocal at one time in this thread but realized that it’s a giant waste of time.

As horrible as it sounds I applaud the people who stormed the capital, not because of what they stood for, but because they had the balls to do something about it. We really need to overthrow the worthless politicians and start over with a body who doesn’t work for money from lobbyists and corporations and instead works for the public.