Shanghai Disneyland will close in effort to contain coronavirus

Posted Friday, January 24, 2020 11:49 AM | Contributed by Tekwardo

Shanghai Disneyland will close its gates on Saturday in an effort to stop the spread of a new SARS-like virus that has killed 26 people and sickened at least 881, primarily in China. It’s not known when the theme park may reopen.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:20 PM

Jeff said:

extremecoasterdad said:

So, with various leaders and even some of the so called experts violating their own recommendations and guidelines, what are we really supposed to believe about all this anyway. Follow the science...listen to the experts...follow the guidelines...unless you happen to be...

Sounds like it's pretty easy then to be "better" than those people, right? See Andy's point above about the thing you can control versus "everybody's doin' it."

Or I can remain skeptical that all is what it seems.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:21 PM

Is it ethically better if the government sponsors the corruption?

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:54 PM

One of the criticisms we have seen over the years with front of the line access programs is you cannot cut in line yourself but if the park allows you to do so, its suddenly ok. On a certain level, that is true. You could look at the college admissions scandal with Loughlin and company and say the problem wasn't paying money to get your kid into a given college but rather not going through the official channels. And on a certain level, that is true as well.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 2:37 PM

So institutional corruption isn't a problem but rogue corrupt individuals are?

I know that is reality in many of our institutions but that doesn't make it acceptable or ethical. I say that coming from one of the most corrupt states in the union.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 4:02 PM

Absent a book of objective and absolute right and wrong covering all expects of human endeavors and the universe, someone needs to make rules to have a civilized society. Can be mob rule (might makes right). Step above anarchy in many instances. Can have a king make the rules but that is often a mob of one. For better or worse (mostly better I would say), societies have decided to let elected (appointed sometimes) legislatures make those rules.

That involves making judgments and drawing lines. But different people make different judgments and draw different lines which can be problematic. And that is before you bring in political influences which can skew those judgments/lines (cue the pope, daily chicken and losing the Wonder Bread account joke).

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:30 PM
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A couple of stories that croseed my feed today:

60% of Ohio nursing home workers electing not to get vaccine

At the current pace, it will take 10 years to vaccinate everyone


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Thursday, December 31, 2020 1:50 PM

The government overpromised and underdelivered. News at 11.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 3:08 PM
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The vaccine makers are quietly saying that they have inventory that isn't moving, which makes you wonder where the supply chain is broken. It's like no one is actually in charge, which I suppose is par for the course the last few years.


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Thursday, December 31, 2020 3:14 PM

I have seen very little information about vaccine distribution. Considering what I do for a living that is pretty disturbing. J

Just read that 1 in 16 Floridians has contracted Covid compared to 1 in 94 worldwide. DeSantis keeps on winning.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 3:34 PM
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That's messed up. Every person in your position should have little question about how your constituents are going to get the vaccine and when.


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Thursday, December 31, 2020 3:50 PM

In Ohio, DeWine is saying that 60% of the eligible nursing home workers are declining their vaccine.

Also saw the story about the hospital worker in Wisconsin that ruined 500 doses of the vaccine. What I found non-understandable was that the hospital discovered this before the 12 hour time window on the vaccine ran out. They said they were able to give out some of the doses but not all of them. How hard is it to give out 500 doses? Do people really not want it? I don't understand how they were not able to find 500 people within about 5 minutes and then line them up and hit them with the shot. What am I missing?

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 4:56 PM
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I don’t know why this isn’t a requirement of working in a nursing home. Like, if your kids want to go to school, they have to get vaccines. If you want to teach, there are medical requirements (just got my quadrennial TB test this morning). Why isn’t this required for work in a nursing home?


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Thursday, December 31, 2020 4:58 PM

Jeff said:

The vaccine makers are quietly saying that they have inventory that isn't moving, which makes you wonder where the supply chain is broken. It's like no one is actually in charge, which I suppose is par for the course the last few years.

There is no national health care infrastructure....at all. It's not just a function of current leadership, though that's definitely not helping.

Having no such infrastructure is okay when things are mostly okay. But when you need it, you need it.

I'm surprised by the 60% decline rate, but my health-care spouse is not. Her take is that there will need to be a significant and sustained PR campaign to counter the last decade or two of "vaccines are dangerous" misinformation. Yet another consequence of a national embrace of anti-science, for a whole host of reasons.


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Thursday, December 31, 2020 5:16 PM
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Consider that this vaccine was granted highly accelerated approval. It might be that a lot of people are declining it because of unknown long-term effects. I’m glad it got rolled out quickly, but I can understand that people have reservations.


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Thursday, December 31, 2020 5:20 PM

From what I understand, about half the states mandate that healthcare workers get flu shots. And even those have exemptions from the mandate which vary by state.

Unions also often are against mandates.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 8:12 PM

sirloindude said:

Consider that this vaccine was granted highly accelerated approval.


As I understand it the length and scope of the Phase 3 trials were not at all unusual. Most of the difference is attributable to short development time plus speculative production at scale pre-approval


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Thursday, December 31, 2020 9:08 PM
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Brian Noble said:
There is no national health care infrastructure....at all. It's not just a function of current leadership, though that's definitely not helping. Having no such infrastructure is okay when things are mostly okay. But when you need it, you need it.

If only we had a year to plan for this. Wait...

Seriously though, we can deploy people, ships and airplanes by the thousands anywhere in the world in 24 hours. I can have cold beer delivered to my house in the next two hours. Between those two facts, I don't believe that infrastructure is the problem. America invented getting anything anywhere as fast as possible.


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Friday, January 1, 2021 1:16 AM

Lately I’ve been sitting in utter disbelief and shock, really, that the administration of this vaccine is so f’d up. My heart broke to see Florida seniors lined up outside for days hoping to get their turn for the shot. And why anyone should be in a scramble at the sound of a bell is beyond me, anyway. A good friend lives in a poor county in rural Florida north of Tampa with her 96 yo dad and they were told all appointments for the vaccine were taken. No word as to when that would open back up yet.
And here I am, a 66 yo, overweight, diabetic man who sits in some mysteriously named Group 2. My health is nothing to be bragging about but I understand that’s how one gets to group 2. I don’t know what that means, or whether I’ll be called up eventually or if I’m gonna have to go looking for it myself. My guess is that our primary care locations won’t be stocking the vaccines- I don’t remember seeing a super deep freezer in the office to store it.

In the early 60’s when I was a boy in Fairview Park, Ohio we participated in Sabin Sundays. Over three consecutive spring Sundays millions of families lined up at their school to receive a sugar cube with a drop of the new, live polio vaccine in it. Somehow we all knew when to go, we all went happily, it was administered easily, and no one dropped dead from it.
Ok- Not quite the same as this I suppose, but I happen to know that mass inoculation is possible.
The clown who would “only hire the best people” put his know-nothing VP in charge of this virus. You know, as opposed to someone who might actually know what to do and take action to prepare us for this.
It makes me want to throttle someone when I think that we have to rely on the Gaga’s and Dolly Partons of the world to quietly step up and do what’s required to get a vaccine available.

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Friday, January 1, 2021 10:43 AM

GoBucks89 said:

The TRUMP government overpromised and underdelivered. News at 11.

Fixed it for you.

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Friday, January 1, 2021 2:29 PM
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Brian Noble said:

As I understand it the length and scope of the Phase 3 trials were not at all unusual. Most of the difference is attributable to short development time plus speculative production at scale pre-approval.

One of the main reasons the phase 3 trials went so quickly is because there was so much prevalence of the virus in the community. They got all the data they needed.

Regarding the botched rollout. I get email alerts from Allegheny County. This was one of them...

Health Department Seeking Information From Organizations with Individuals Eligible for Phase 1A Vaccinations
The Allegheny County Health Department (ACHD) is seeking information from healthcare organizations to assist in planning and allocating the limited amount of the COVID-19 vaccine being received. At this time, organizations which fall into the Phase 1A category for vaccinations are being asked to provide basic contact information and detail on its operations, as well as an estimate of eligible personnel working in Allegheny County.

Maybe they were waiting for the feds to provided a plan? Why didn't they have this information ready?

Frustration aside. All of my friends and family who work in healthcare have already had their first dose.


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