Shanghai Disneyland will close in effort to contain coronavirus

Yeah, it seemed like a constant party at first, but the more stories I heard, the more I'd rather not.

The young Director of that documentary is from Weston. Shameless plug.

My 70 year old mother's appointment for her first shot is tomorrow morning. Her older boyfriend goes Wednesday. They were just very persistent, trying over and over and over again. She called the Cleveland Clinic more than 400 times. Finally ended up getting registered through a County site.

It is a dead horse now...but the lack of planning and logistics from the Federal and State level is shameful. Completely expected at this point...but shameful in any event.

"Leisureville: Adventures in a World Without Children" is a really good look into The Villages if your looking for something to read. It's a fun read.

I have a new concern though. It was reported this morning that Joe Biden plans on distributing the vaccines with no hold back for the 2nd round. It's been said that this is a risky move on his part, since there has not been a ramping up of production.

I'm not sure if it's risky or not... the math suggests that because it's stockpiling, and production is ramping, that at some point they meet in the middle. My assumption is that the new administration will try to bring some kind of consistency and predictable outcomes to the process as best it can, and hopefully that means giving states something more concrete to work with (which I'm sure every Republican governor would reject).

It seems like the risk would be that the people who got the first shot are not able to get their 2nd shot at the correct time because all of the 2nd doses have been given out as 1st doses. If production can keep up then it should not be an issue. But we have seen how this has played out so far. I don't think that Biden is simply going to snap his fingers and all of the logistic issues go away. Seems like a decent chance that people's 2nd shots are going to get hosed.

Right, but production volume and logistics failures are two different problems. Right now, the production rate doesn't seem to be the problem, it's getting it into peoples' arms.

If getting shots into people's arms is the problem how is releasing millions of the 2nd doses going to help? I would continue to hold those back for the 2nd doses in the event that something does go wrong with production in the near future. And if production is indeed not an issue for the foreseeable future then resolve the logistics and everyone is a winner. Risking people's 2nd dose when there are lots and lots of 1st doses laying around does not make sense to me.

Disneyland will be the first of five Super POD sites in Orange County with the capacity to vaccinate thousands of people every day.

https://abc7.com/health/disneyland-to-become-ocs-first-massive-vacc...34FPw7TbjQ

It's tough to be a bug.

kpjb said:

My wife's company said that they plan to have all of their 90,000 employees vaccinated by the end of January. Not making it mandatory or anything, but available to all of them.

So my wife got an email yesterday that she could now schedule an appointment to get her first vaccine shot. She'll have it Thursday afternoon. While she technically works in the health care industry, she's in finance and works from home. Still not sure how the distribution thing is working.

Shades said:

If getting shots into people's arms is the problem how is releasing millions of the 2nd doses going to help? I would continue to hold those back for the 2nd doses in the event that something does go wrong with production in the near future. And if production is indeed not an issue for the foreseeable future then resolve the logistics and everyone is a winner. Risking people's 2nd dose when there are lots and lots of 1st doses laying around does not make sense to me.

This is what I was trying to convey, but did not do so adequately.

Not to be outdone by Biden...

From the New York Times:
H.H.S. will also no longer hold back vaccine doses to ensure that those who receive a first dose will have a second dose in reserve. Instead, all existing doses will be sent to states to provide initial inoculations. Second doses are to be provided by new waves of manufacturing. Both vaccines authorized in the United States so far require two doses: 21 days apart for the one developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, and 28 days apart for the one from Moderna.

From what I have read, seems like the issue isn't having vaccines on hand (there are millions of doses that have been distributed but not used). Its getting vaccines in arms. Distributing more doses doesn't seem to change that or address the problem. No matter which administration is doing it.

Maybe if they stop trying to be so smart about what specific subset of people get vaccinated they can move things along. Why not maintain a list of people who actually want to be vaccinated that is continually prioritized as more doses are shipped?

Probably because that would take a lot of extra work. And I don't mean that tongue in cheek or with snark. I mean, it's genuinely a lot of work to create that list, keep it current, and contact the people on it when appropriate. Especially if it's done at the county or even the state level. It's way easier to just sort of say, "Okay, health care people...health care people...going once, going twice....now old people....old people..."

Ha ha. CNN live update headline 6 minutes after my post here.

Fauci blames “rigid” rules for slowing US vaccine rollout

Lord Gonchar said:

Oh wow! So how's that been going?

Kstr 737 said:

Ok, so far. Thank you for asking. Day 5 since the test was run. Day 3 of knowing, I have it. It’s a weird state of mind. I think I am asymptomatic, or very minor symptoms. I can’t tell how much of it is psychological. I’m not going to say more or hedge any bet until it hopefully clears. Then I’ll maybe write a deeper dive.

Just realized this was the last time Kstr 737 posted anything here. It's been 3 weeks.

We still good?

I'm bouncing back from a bout of COVID. Started showing symptoms on the 26th - cough, body aches, fever - that progressively got worse through the day. I woke up feeling almost normal the next day, but opted to get tested anyway. I did a PCR test at a free county run site near my house and did a rapid test at an urgent care facility. Both came back positive. The urgent care prescribed a Z-pack, 5 days of a steroid, and something for the cough. Other symptoms came and went - congestion, fatigue made worse by the insomnia from the steroid, I would get pretty winded if I exerted any energy, my sense of taste never went away but was noticeably dull for a week, 1 day of nausea, and a really wicked bloody nose one morning. I was almost back to normal a week into it. My wife and daughter finally tested positive on my day 9 - wife had similar mild symptoms and daughter had almost none. Their positive tests pushed my return to work back a couple of days while they worked out the quarantine for someone that was positive but still exposed to someone else positive with symptoms. I'm not 100% sure where I picked it up. My mother in law started symptoms at almost the same time as me and I had been around her. Just not sure which one had it first. My biggest lingering effects are the cough and the fatigue. I crash when I get home from work and sleep through my first alarm in the morning (and slept well past my usual wake up time over the weekend).

From DeWine today:

321,506 people have received the first dose of the vaccine (2.75% of population) – there are an estimated 3.2 million people in Phase 1A and 1B.

Got a long way to go.