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ugh, screw it, you guys are sooooo narrow minded its not even funny...with you guys its all about the same crap..."omg, i cant wait, omg omg omg, six flags is building a coaster! omg! holy crap! omg! omg! omg!" havent you guys learned ANYTHING??? its SIX FLAGS!!! its gonna be a poopy coaster and you know it, either a clone or something VERY close to it...six flags always has their way of pissing on our faces, its always something...
they have no creativity what-so-ever, hence the dozens of cloned coasters, no theming, and VERY crappy crew (if any of you work at a six flags sorry, but the staff at almost every six flags park ive been to is terrible). im SO anti six flags because they ruin everything, magic mountain is probably the only exception to where six flags makes an effort to do anything. Granted, six flags has done some cool things with coasters (nitro, B&R:TC, X), but they just dont do it for me anymore, ive lost faith if you will :(
and what i meant from the "too many hypercoasters" thing is...remember when getting to ride a hypercoaster was a big thing, a huge treat if you will...well, not no more, they'r everywhere now and its totally ruined a good aspect to the rides. the rides are still good yes, but they'r so trendy now, overdone, and almost all the same (drop, drop, turnaround, bunny hill, bunny hill x 3)...so im not totally counting on six flags to take a little effort and switch some layouts around, they'r too lazy i guess...and i swear to god if i get a "you dont know one thing about the industry, do you know how hard it is to make a new coaster blah blah blah give them credit" oh STFU whoever is thinking that, if you put yourself in the postion to work at a amusement park chain, you better bust your ass and give the people something new every year or resign right on the spot, because your not fit for the game (end of flaming)
remember that tera thats meant to be coming to the US (lucky twats) that might be coming to somewhere around ohio................
maybe SFWoA will get a junior hyper like SFH's goliath,that would be fun
but ill never get to ride it. (nooooooooooooooooooo)
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Jes
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Eh, I can kinda see what he's saying, it doesn't seem as special for a park to have them, and the layouts are quite similar for most of the East Coast ones, not the west coast though. But now that I think about it, there aren't that many.
I just find it funny that the day before (I checked my paper again) there was an article in my paper about the Great Escape getting an expansion of 20 million dollars to spend over the next 5 or 10 years approved. Seems kinda strange to me that the day after that we have track spotted going eastward on I-90, which goes pretty much right next to the Great Escape. And no one ever goes to the Great Escape, so for all we know there could be track sitting in the lot. That's just what I think.
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MonkeyMaster: Where have you been the last few years? Which Six Flags hyper was a dud? Between the Intamin Supermen, Holland's Goliath, the Giovanolas and the B&M's, every last one of these rides has opened to critical praise.
And what the hell does being "special" have to do with anything? Goliath at SFH and Superman at SFNE might be special, but they do me no good if I can't go ride them.
Bring it on... they need to win back my attention!
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MonkeyMaster: i see what your saying and all, but im all for the building of hyper coasters! there great.
Just because Six Flags chooses to build them at a number of their parks isnt a bad thing really.
Did you ever think about the GP? Really how many non-enthusiast do you know that will visit more then 1 or 2 parks a year?...not many thats for sure.
Six Flags knows this, and with that being the case they are just trying to bring a variety of coasters to there parks. (i cant wait for the 4d to get all its bugs worked out so they'll start building them here on the east coast!)
I for one am happy about that. I dont care if its a clone. As long as its a good ride, then who really cares if theres another hyper exactly the same hundreds or even thousands of miles away.
btw coaster_fanatic_kid, i drove by GE last night. nothing in the parking lot. if that track was headed for GE and it arrived at the park they've got it somewhere inside the park..but i wouldnt count on it
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Why does everyone say clones are such a bad thing. Granted with SLC's and Boomerangs that may be true. But in cases like Batman, S:ROS, Titan/Goliath, Bring them on.
As for ruining the specialness of a hyper what the hell are you smoking? Cedar Fair could have been said to have done that, afterall they built Steel Force, Mamba, and Wild Thing. Three Morgan Hyper Coasters that are very close to being the same thing. Heck even Magnum is similar.
I think CCI should quit making woodies because they are ruining the specialness of them.
Waaaaaaaaa Lets cry about something worthwhile Monkey Master.
-Brent
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Well I'll *gasp* support Monkey's arguement - I think cloning is terrible. There is enough of a draw of roller coasters now that if more of them were unique, more people would travel to further parks - it would boost tourism greatly all over the place. I for one know that I was planning a park vacation and have completely skipped SFGAm, SFA and SFDL because I can get most of the better coasters from those parks at another park.
There is enough technical know-how out there at these great coaster companies that they should be able to design a completely new ride more often than they do. Sure we'd have to wait another year or two in between coasters, but for a totally different experience than before, is that such a bad thing? The best sign of a park that has lost interest in pleasing the consumer and has turned to what makes the most money the fastest is an influx of clones. This is why I've gotten bored with RCT and this is why I've lost interest in SF parks.
And if it is such a complex and long process to design a mostly unique ride, why does Cedar Fair accomplish it every two years or so? WT is similar, but not a clone - next years bigger, badder Xcelerator at CP won't be a direct clone - they'll build it bigger and have more layout. I'd point out Kennywood too, but they don't produce enough coasters to really give me an arguement, but do Boulder Dash and Phantom's Revenge bear any resemblance to any other coasters??
PittDesigner said: I think cloning is terrible. There is enough of a draw of roller coasters now that if more of them were unique, more people would travel to further parks - it would boost tourism greatly all over the place.
How can you say that?? Cloning is a great thing as long as it isnt overdone. If the parks want to throw a few clones around to various parks then im all for it. ::cough:: clone of X...east coast please!! (i got to ride it once shortly after it opened amazing ride!)
As to your comment about more people traveling to further parks that is just untrue. The GP could really care less about planning a vacation so they can go ride a new coaster. So that wouldnt really boost tourism...with the exception of enthusiasts.
As for myself, I tend to visit numerous parks each year (so far 8 this year, w/trips to SFDL, CP and SFWoA coming shortly! :) ) I dont care if a park has clones of rides ive already ridden because the park has other rides to. Plus its always nice just to visit other parks and see differences from your homepark. Also a great way to meet fellow enthusiast!
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Pittdesigner,
I dont see why you skip SFGAm since you can ride most of the better coasters that are there elsewhere. Most of the coasters and a handful are great are not cloned!
American Eagle - not cloned. Great ride especially backwards
Demon - cloned (at Paramount's Great America), still good ride.
Shockwave - not cloned (similar rides are around however), IMO not a great ride but to some it is.
Iron Wold - not cloned, the first B+M coaster anywhere
Raging Bull - not cloned, only hyper-twister, and awesome ride
Viper - sort of cloned, this is the best of the Cyclone clones, and an awesome ride.
Deja Vu - cloned but it is a great ride and you have to go to California or Georgia to ride the clones.
V2 - cloned but a great ride, SFWOa is the only identical clone now.
Batman - cloned many times over but this is the original inverted coaster!
Spacely Sprocket - many times cloned kiddy coaster, I have not ridden it.
Whizzer - was cloned originally but it now remains the LAST speed racer Schwartzkopf in North America!
As you probably now know there are tons of great coasters that are not cloned at SFGAm or have reasons to ride them even though they are cloned. Believe me you are problably missing out on one of the best Six Flags parks out there.
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Will the GP who only go to one or two parks a year even know if its cloned? I didn't think so, and furthermore, they ride roller coasters because they're fun (so do we), and they probably don't even care either.
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MonkeyMaster said:
its gonna be a poopy coaster and you know it,
remember when getting to ride a hypercoaster was a big thing,
First things first. Poopy coaster? How old are you? 5?
Second of all: Getting to ride a hypercoaster still is a special thing, and it alway will be because they're what, 100 - 200 feet taller than the others? So you think getting to ride a hypercoaster is just as good as riding a Boomerang? Jeez, remember when GETTING TO RIDE A ROLLER COASTER was a special thing? Just because there is a lot of hypercoasters doesn't they aren't special. But I can tell you are special, let's ban you like the other special people who use lot's of profane langauge! All I can tell you is take a chill pill.
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PittDesigner said:
There is enough of a draw of roller coasters now that if more of them were unique, more people would travel to further parks - it would boost tourism greatly all over the place.
While I might agree with you to some degree, that's not the intention of the parks. Most amusement parks are regional attractions. In the case of Six Flags, they even pride themselves on it ("So big, so close"). The whole point is, don't travel to Orlando, we've got something nice for you right here. Cedar Fair and Six Flags both have said outright that's a part of their strategy.
And in a soft economy where people are using discretion about what they spend money on, as we've had much of the last year, that strategy pays off big time. Regional theme parks reap the benefit. Orlando was hurting bad last year while the regional parks had on average small declines in attendance.
Besides, I think enthusiasts over-estimate how many people from the general public have even heard of a Raven or Superman if it wasn't in their back yard.
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