SFNO removing rides

SFNO has removed Voodoo Volcano and King Chaos is to be removed also..These rides are now no longer on the official parks website..SFNO continues to surprise us, along with No New Additions for 2005, No waterpark, Hourly park hours being cut, Daily tickets be raised and now 2 rides are being removed ... Its a replay of an old movies .. Honey, I Shrunk the Park....Terminator ...Any one in the Market for used rides See SFNO...We are turning from a Amusement Park to a Concert Arena.. Whats Next???? *** Edited 2/14/2005 2:02:18 AM UTC by CrazyB***

My feelings on SFNO: I went there once when I moved to New Orleans last fall. Once was enough...I don't think I'll be going back next year. I really enjoyed a few of the coasters/rides, but it will take a lot for me to go back. (It was a BAD experience with cutomer service/employees/patrons, etc)

And where would this park be right now if it wasn't for SF taking it over?

CLOSED!!!!

Get over it and be glad the park still operates.

Lets see, locals don't like the park, yet someone with SFGAM as a home park tells them "Get Over it".

Amazing....

And the significance of that is What?

His point is still valid as it was when he typed it.

SF bought it, renamed it, pumped money into it and now it's gotta turn a profit--or get reasonably close.

That's life.

-'Playa

And removing rides helps this business model HOW?

Yes, SFNO needs to turn a profit as does every park, thats not the issue.

The thread is about removing rides. Someone brings it up and they are wrong? Told to get over it? Its not like someone was demanding new rides, just questioning the removal of some.

So explain to me how removing rides is going to help SFNO turn a profit. I must be missing the OBVIOUS.

What kind of rides are being removed. As in, are they old, unreliable, low pph rides that require too much maintenance to keep? Without knowing anything about the rides that was the first thing that popped into my head. Then again, I'm probably way off.

I believe the rides mentioned above are a Chaos and an Inverter, both crappy Chance products nobody should miss anyway.

-Nate

My point in this (glad Playa spoke up for me :) ), is that this is another tired topic of people feeling they are being neglected with SFNO.

Has really nothing to do with removal of rides.

Jazzland was on the verge of being no more. SF takes over and keeps the park alive. If it wasn't for parks like SFGAm which I see is becoming a popular response to me since I live near it on topics like this, your park would be a memory.

So once again, GET OVER IT!!

I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree then.

I just find it somewhat bizarre that you chime in anytime someone thinks Six Flags neglects their home park. Be glad that you don't have that problem.

But I think I will take the local's point of view over a park. (No, SFNO is not my home park)

I guess no one can have an opinion about how Six Flags does things?

Chitown, you are fortunate. SFGAM gets new capital every year. There are no Off years for you so pardon me if your stance on this issue does not carry much weight with me. You just have not experienced it so you don't know. I can't blame you for that.

Is it wrong for someone to want the best for their home park? Is it wrong to comment about it? Can someone make a comment on how they wish Six Flags was doing more for their home park without you telling them to quit crying (in reference to your old sig) or “Get over it.”? Because they want more for their park, are they to be dismissed with a curt little comment?

So while we might agree about an idiot from Texas, we don't agree on much more and I don't think we will.

And as a postscript, other chains were interested in Jazzland, the New Orleans political process wanted Six Flags and only Six Flags. These other chains were not given a chance. Could they have done better? Who Knows?

Sarcasm /on

As far as Six Flags decisions on capital spending, well they are doing SO WELL; I guess they must be making the right calls, who are WE to question?

Sarcasm /off

Removing these two Chanc rides were probally the smartest thing the park has done financially in the last two years.

I thought SFNE was removing their Chaos as well

I have to be honest, I am not a big inverter fan either. The Chaos is a fun ride but seems to be everywhere these days.

If they removed the Chance version of the Frisbee, I would be happier. That rides is not near as good as the Huss model at SFFT.

No, not huge rides and not my favorites but when a park does not have that much to offer, losing 2 rides is a lot. I was not impressed with the Chance ride package that the park opened with and while I won't miss the rides personally, I am sure some of the New Orleans locals will.

Six Flags New Orleans should be a case study for Cap Ex. You can throw millions of dollars at a park reflagging it. (In this case 2 used rollercoasters, a few flats and a new themed area) and still miss the mark by not backing up these expenses with good customer service and focus to the customer's enjoyment.

You can have the best coasters in the world, but if the line is 2 hours long and your running 1 train, what have you accomplished? You can have 2 rides from S&S that are a blast, but if only one person is working both rides, what have you accomplished? You can spend all the money in the world on new coasters, but if you can't get staffing to operate them, work in the resteraunts, clean the bathrooms or the park, have you really focused on what is important?

"Buld it and they will come" works for a season or two, but the parks bread and butter, the regulars will quickly grow tired dealing with everything besides the ride and quit coming. Is that the customers fault? The enthusiasts fault? If the park is not fun to go to, people will quit coming.

A good example of the opposite is SFGAM, which is one of my favorite parks in the world. Not only do they have new rides every year, but the employees are great in my visits and the park is CLEAN all the time. Resteraunts are open and people always seem to be having a good time. I have a lot of respect for the GM of SFGAM, he manages to secure the capital and backs it up with good customer service.

I wouldn't be surprised to see SFNO get the SFWoA treatment soon, and no I don't mean CF buying it, but it being put up for sale period.

SFGAm isn't "neglected" by SF corporate because it is one of the top 3 performing parks in the chain. We GET money spent here because we MAKE money.

And the thing is, despite what all the whining says around here, we still GET less than what we MAKE. I'd be willing to bet that SFGAm as apark made more money for the chain than has been spent on adding to it the past few years.

My post was to inform everyone of the dissappearing rides at the park and how the park is downsizing , rides hours and anneminities,and more than likely staffing which was already a problem from past seasons. I want the park to survive but SF is squeezing the life out it, I don't know what SF has in store for the park nor can I change it..Sarcasm On I.m sure Chitown would never travel down here to compare our little park with his wonderfully over budgited park..I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot and we had a SFGam down here and you had a SFNO up there..Would you like the Get Over It Comment ..Probably the only reason anyone would come visit New Orleans would be during Mardi Gras or Bourbon Street and if you had too much to drink, got a little crazy and got arrested all we would be able to say is Looks like they found The Village idiot from Illinois Get over It... Sarcasm Off..Our park is making money, granted not as much as the bigger parks but it has potential if we can be granted some hope other than what has been done in the past....Sorry if I offended anyone Just want the best for the park!!

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Coaster Cynic said:
If they removed the Chance version of the Frisbee, I would be happier. That rides is not near as good as the Huss model at SFFT.

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SFNO does not have a Chance version of the Huss Frisbee. What you're talking about is a Fabbri ride.

I find it funny that people take it so personally when a park makes a business decision people don't agree with. The reason people say "get over it" is because they understand the business, not because their home parks get capital. Business isn't personal, and you shouldn't take it that way. Sometimes people just get really tired of the same people whining about the same parks over, and over, and over, and over again.

-Nate
*** Edited 2/14/2005 2:41:38 PM UTC by coasterdude318***

CHitown: I'm not saying it was neglected. I don't care if they remove a few flats (don't ride them) nor reduce hours (it's a half day park anyway). Just saying that I went there once and had such a negative experience, despite a few good coasters, that I have no desire to go back.

And yes, it's so very awfully terrible that SF didn't build two custom coasters at SFNO that would make the whole world choke on their morning danish, spit their coffee and wet themselves.

Show me the SF park with a taller, faster more thrilling inverted coaster...cuz I can think of a couple that are much worse off.

Not everything you wanna have. Tumbleweed.
Not everything you wanna have. Tumbleweed.

Gee, I don't know which option I prefer...

-CO

*** Edited 2/14/2005 4:01:06 PM UTC by CoastaPlaya***

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coasterdude318 said:
I believe the rides mentioned above are a Chaos and an Inverter, both crappy Chance products nobody should miss anyway.

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I sure hope you're right Nate....I ride near-everything, and would KINDA miss a Chaos a bit more than a Chance Inverter, but neither are *make-or-break* type flats for me...if King Chaos was a Huss Top Spin (like the aforementioned SFGAm park has, LOL), then I would be disappointed to see it go...

SFNO home-parkers, take *Solace* in the fact that SFNO likely will be replacing these outdated Chance rides with something better, and more fun, in the near-ish future...:)

Wait, wait, wait...are we 100% sure these rides are being removed? The only proof given is that they're not on the park's website but is that definitely an accurate indicator?

Plus, I don't believe the park has made their 2005 announcement yet...could they be replacing those rides with something new or new/used?

mOOSH

*** Edited 2/14/2005 4:07:47 PM UTC by Mamoosh***