SFMM 2006 B&M track parts have arrived on-site

Normally I would be in the group of people who would be saying that SFMM doesnt need this, just like many already have stated.

However, this ride has gotten my interest. I was disappointed when I thought that S:UF would be the new B:TR. If the concept really is designed to exploit what these coasters can do, i think we could have an awesome intense B&M ride next year.

I would have to agree about the resurgence of B&M. With unique, great looking layouts in the way of Hydra and Goliath (SFoG), and possibly this new flyer, hopefully we will see them back to their intensity days.

One word response to this coaster: WHY?

Cool, a new element! Let's hope it isn't a raven turn...;)

Dweaver (who agrees with everything said in this thread about SFMM, but can't help getting excited by the idea of a terrain hugging flyer! ) :)

LOL to you, Gator! :)

Joe "gator gets the line of the day award" C.

Isn't the new element something called a "divescrew"?

^No that element can already be found on M:TR. ;) LOL!

"I do contact parks when I have an overwhelmingly positive or negative experience but SFMM shouldn't need people to do that."

Really? Then how do they know that they are doing a bad job if no one speaks up? I think input from customers is EXACTLY what they need. *** Edited 9/8/2005 7:25:09 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer***

A more interesting B&M flyer layout would be mighty, mighty interesting...I'm one of those who (so far) prefers the Flying Dutchman to the Pretzel-loop-and-not-much-else.

Blasphemy, I know, but so it goes.

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how do they know that they are doing a bad job if no one speaks up?

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falling attendance?

How would they know? The reasons I just mentioned. Declining attendance numbers. Declining stock value. Hell, one of the major stockholders wants to buy control of the company because he is THAT unhappy with the way things are being run. All of those are tell-tale signs that something needs to be done.

Or how about reading about how much they suck here on the board? ;)

it is funny reading all of these forums about new coaster announcements, because no matter what somebody is pissed off. People get angry when a park doesn't get a new coaster and then they get angry when they do get a new coaster(not all people).

My first sfmm experience occured in January of 2005 and let me just say that all of the coasters (except flashback obviously) were running, and I had a great time. Yes, they do need to improve on their customer service but I really think people are over reacting to the severity of it.

By the way, where in the park is this ride going to be in the park, any ideas

Are their attendance numbers really falling though? They've been at around 3 million for the past couple years.

3 million? Says who?

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Krypton said:
I would have to agree about the resurgence of B&M.

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When exactly was the decline that had to preceed this "resurgence"?

I agree. Since when have B&M coasters been lousy? Despite all the b**ching and moaning that they are forceless cookie-cutter designs, I don't think B&M has ever designed a bad ride. Not every steel coaster has to generate as many forces as a Schwarzkopf, nor do they all need to boast 100% unique designs. Heck, many CCI coasters weren't tremendously unique from a layout standpoint.

"falling attendance?"

Yes, an indicator that you are doing something wrong, but does not tell what specifically you are doing wrong unless the customer speaks up.

Do you also complain about one train operation> Or, many rides being closed? *** Edited 9/8/2005 8:58:29 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer***

Which is when, if you're experiencing a decline in attendance, most businesses look at their product, and try to find ways to improve it...

Obviously throwing a coaster at the GP isn't working, perhaps they should throw some paint, flat rides, cleanliness, and better customer service instead :).

...at around 3 million

Isn't that what you said, Antuan? I believe 2.7 is around 3 million.

I know how they could improve their product. Oh, wait. They have one of those.