SF: beginning of the end?

Atuan:

Read the quote...slowly this time! See if there just might be a hint that Jeff knew that...I don't know---say....tens of thousands of people may be in trouble?

Of course this did not stop him from taking the time to point out these people were just asking fot it! All wrapped up in one simple post.

Jeff has ample opportunity to come on here and explain himself. Until he does, we will let his words and timing speak for themselves. As it looks now, dropping "f-bombs" on Intamin Fan and calling me an "ass" for pointing out the obvious is the height of hipocrasy!

Spare the hero-worship and urge to defend. The facts are pretty clear on this one. Jeff will either explain this one away for himself, or he will let it die a slow death!

We will see if his explanation will be cause for an apology from me. Or if he will be man enough to appologize to Intamin Fan!

I'm fully prepared to do the right thing---we will see if Jeff does the same!

Snore.

Are you really that bored? Really?

For the rest of those with attention spans that aren't longer than a sound bite, read it in context.


I haven't seen photos or video from the residential areas though, only downtown New Orleans. They're talking about tens of thousands of people not having anywhere to go, so that can't be good.


At that particular time, nobody knew how bad it actually was--never mind folks watching TV from thousands of miles away. FEMA didn't know, NO city officials didn't know and some of them were still in the city, not too far from the levee itself.

Knowing what we all know NOW as opposed to then?
A statement like IF's is indeed inappropriate.

We now return you to the regularly scheduled minor disaster called Six Flags: Ultimate Escape.

-'Playa

*** Edited 9/19/2005 2:11:38 PM UTC by CoastaPlaya***


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Dexter:

This is an interesting observation to include in this thread. We now have Barbara Bush to lambaste for making insensitive comments. She comes after Jeff the coaster moderator also blamed Intamin Fan for his lack of compassion. The CB community is full of sensitivity police who are the first voice displeasure at the slightest sign of impropriety with respect to spoken word! Yet, in this situation facts have shown that one of the insensitivity police’s most visible members on CB, none other than moderator Jeff himself, has made remarks that would clearly be offensive to those of you so prone to being offended… And have any of you spoken up to denounce this dastardly behavior?

I’m beginning to think that the words themselves are not the issue here. Could anybody explain to me why coaster moderator Jeff’s words were more compassionate than Intamin Fan’s? Also, please explain why so many were quick to denounce Intamin Fan and yet remain silent when Jeff says the same?

*** Edited 9/19/2005 2:26:52 PM UTC by Jeffrey R Smith***

The reason I enjoy this site, as opposed to others, is that we generally stick on topic and don't delve into areas none of us can claim we know anything about.

Why does person A get criticized when Jeff doesn't? Jeff owns the site. This isn't a democracy.

Can we stick to the issue at hand which is the sad state of an amusement park. Six Flags fans or not can we not all agree that this is a sad story? Rides are destroyed, people will be out of work, etc. Can we keep our eyes on the ball here?

Playa:

You are among the many who contribute to the rising view counts of any thread in which I contribute. Thanks for taking the time to respond this time.

Are you asking me to believe that Jeff had no idea that people were in trouble, and therefore his insensitivity is justified? I would grant you this line of reasoning if Jeff had not said… They're talking about tens of thousands of people not having anywhere to go, so that can't be good. This sentence alone shows that Jeff knew full well at the time that this was a bad situation. This did not stop him from making the insensitive comments.

You and others are reaching real hard to defend him here. Why is this so? Did anybody take the time to do the same for Intamin Fan? Hmmm…

P.S. Thanks for your concern about my boredom…I’ve only got about 360 posts in my 2++ years here…I’m so busy with other things! I’m anything but bored. Your up over 2800 in 4 years. That is over 700 per year...if I did not know better...I might assume that you were the one who is bored...no?

*** Edited 9/19/2005 2:50:03 PM UTC by Jeffrey R Smith***

Yea, but JRS, your posts are four times as verbose as 'Playa's - so it works out to be the same... ;)

--George H

Nobody is running for election here, so I don't see the need for the smeer campaign. If folks want to start a political thread that fine. I'm just trying to remember the origninal topic here is and if it is safe to talk about admist the mud slinging.

Besides, Jeff has people in the New Orleans area. His web sight advertises disaster relief. Of course he cares. Stay on topic guys. *** Edited 9/19/2005 3:16:11 PM UTC by rc-madness***

Smith...first of all, it's Antuan. Second, the only people I worship are God and myself. No need to worship a rollercoaster site webmaster I hardly know. What is apparent is that you have some personal vendetta and was just waiting for the prime opportunity. It's pathetic, really!

Fate is the path of least resistance.

And so did Antuan win the first Obvious Statement of the Day Award.

Lemme lick this goldfoil star so it sticks to your forehead...

-CO


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Fellers, Fellers, Fellers:

I respond to another post from Jeff that drops an “f-bomb” on Intamin Fan! I point out that Jeff himself has said the exact same thing before! There is no denying this fact!

Your attacks on me, and attempts to defend such hypocrisy are entirely predictable, but pathetic none-the-less. We’ve digressed to a point in which we have some of you trying to argue that the comments were not insensitive on 8/29/05 (even though Jeff himself admits that tens of thousands were in trouble), but were entirely insensitive this week…? Out of curiosity, at what date and time did it become insensitive to state that New Orleans was built in a stupid place?

The guy who made these comments certainly should be smart enough to not drop “f-bombs” on another guy 2 weeks later for echoing the same! It is just silly! Of course he will get called out, whether he runs the site or not!

As for staying on topic…I could not agree more…but I merely respond to other takes. I challenge anybody to go out there and find one time I’ve started the political crap! We all know who starts this stuff…yet somehow it is he who responds who gets the brunt of the attack!

Anyhow, you cannot expect CB message boards to stay on topic when we’ve got the moderator constantly chiming in with political takes and f-bombs. Somebody much more powerful and important than me had this to say about CB just last week…

Seriously, if you don't like the way things go here, the little button with the "X" in the upper right of the window closes the browser and you can move on with your life.

Not bad advice...

*** Edited 9/19/2005 4:07:52 PM UTC by Jeffrey R Smith***


Yea, but JRS, your posts are four times as verbose as 'Playa's - so it works out to be the same...

You got me there redmann!

In my defense, when you are the lone ranger swatting away every fanboy worshiper (the second Obvious Statement of the Day Award---watch how this one brings em out!), you have to dot every "i"and cross every "t"! Verbose is necessary!

It is easy to write one sentence reponses when you are assured, regradless of fact or reason, that minions will do your dirty work (this could be #3 but might fall under #2)!

'Not bad advice'...especially when it might be time to take a blather break and READ.

Before the full reports came in? No way to distinguish it from umpteen other hurricanes that hit the coast every year.

After they do? There's no mistaking the scope of the disaster to Nawlins, Biloxi and other areas. The timing...gives...it...context.

Understand now? Se habla? Parlez vous? CHEESEBURGER?

-CO

*** Edited 9/19/2005 4:15:16 PM UTC by CoastaPlaya***


NOTE: Severe fecal impaction may render the above words highly debatable.

JRS, Extreme verbosity doesn't mean you're right. It just makes you a blowhard and almost guarantees that most will not read all of your long winded posts. (IMHO, YMMV... )
*** Edited 9/19/2005 4:28:15 PM UTC by redman822***

--George H


READ

Did you follow your advice Playa? I asked...

Out of curiosity, at what date and time did it become insensitive to state that New Orleans was built in a stupid place?

I'm trying real hard to understand. Just give me the date and time after which it was inappropriate to comment.

I ask questions to gain an understanding of your views. It is difficult to gather the information when you avoid direct answers.

I'm still waiting on the answer of how big a vehicle I'm allowed to drive before I'm a complete jerk...none of you answered that either!

Date and Time....Date and Time...you must have a date and time since your responses to parallel comments are 180 degrees...

P.S. Gotta go to work now...blast on...I'll try tonight or tomorrow to respond!

P.P.S. Playa---it still does not go unnoticed that you refuse to comment on the fact Jeff knew tens of thousands were in trouble when he commented. Of course this would break down your counterargument to acknowledge that sentence in Jeff's take---wouldn's it?

*** Edited 9/19/2005 4:43:34 PM UTC by Jeffrey R Smith***

Sooooo... I hear that Six Flags is on the chopping block. I sure hope this means some of our favorite parks don't get liquidated. Or maybe this means some of the more frustrating parks get improved. It seems Astroworld was more a bit more susceptible to liquidation given it was in the middle of down town Houston. Other parks outside of major cities seem to be safer. For instance Magic Mountain is surrounded by suburbs and sagebrush, and probably won't be replaced by a Wal-Mart or mall. There are few developments that can produce a greater income the SFMM in that area. Parks will only be replaced by projects that can produce more money. Le Rhonde is near down town Montreal. Is this park at risk? What other parks are susceptible to city replanning?
Lord Gonchar's avatar
Regardless of who sides with compassion and who sides with logic, I find myself wondering exactly what cosmic force the residents of New Orleans pissed off.

They get their city destroyed, collectively hightail it to Houston and find themselves looking down the barrel of the gun again, so to speak.

Rita's current projected path (as of my posting this Houston seems to be in the crosshairs for Saturday morning - subject to change, of course)

Yikes!

*** Edited 9/19/2005 4:43:55 PM UTC by Lord Gonchar***


Hmmm


CoastaPlaya said:


At that particular time, nobody knew how bad it actually was....Knowing what we all know NOW as opposed to then?
A statement like IF's is indeed inappropriate.



CoastaPlaya said:


Before the full reports came in? No way to distinguish it from umpteen other hurricanes that hit the coast every year.

After they do? There's no mistaking the scope of the disaster to Nawlins, Biloxi and other areas. The timing...gives...it...context.


Reading is Jeffrey-Mental!

-CO

*** Edited 9/19/2005 4:45:09 PM UTC by CoastaPlaya***


NOTE: Severe fecal impaction may render the above words highly debatable.

Can I get a little help getting back to the topic of discussion?
La Ronde? Forget it. The island where the park is not zoned for anything else except recreational. There was talks of Six Flags building an hotel for the park, which would have been a goldmine, but then, zoning didn't even allow that! Part of the buying agreement was something to the effect of running the park 40 some years.
Fantastic news, great to hear it. Any other SF parks on possibly targeted properties that cities may want to reclaim? Any parks at risk of closure after all this bidding business fiasco has run its course?

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