Rumors of the removal of GL's X-Flight

Yeah, I give you that on the layouts and Gerstlauer trains. However, KI and CP both have wooden coasters. Neither have a flyer or floorless. That is what we are talking about. Not signature rides necessarily, but rides that something similar can't be found at KI or CP. *** Edited 11/3/2006 6:28:53 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer***

While thinking about X-Flight I remembered a question being asked at Coaster EXT earlier this year. Someone asked about the possibility of an on ride photo. Mr. Spehn seemed to consider this a worth-while idea.

Could the instalation of an on-ride photo explain the activity around the ride?

Hmmmm, cool. I'd like to know how they would accomplish that. I know I'd buy one!

^Didn't X-flight have an on ride camera in it's debut season?Batwing did...in the helix but it has since been removed.

IIRC PP had planned two more VFD's after stealth/borg but because of the problems with the ride system cancelled the contract after the two rides had already been manufactured.This explains why the two SF parks that ultimately picked them up at the last minute are among two parks located within the vicinity of a paramount property.

Pkd was supposed to recieve what became Batwing,but got HS:XLC instead...which was originally planned for PGA,which ended up with a wild mouse that year.I assume PKI was to recieve what became X-flight but SFWOA picked it up instead.

SFA ended up scrapping their already approved standup for Batwing,which is how many of us found out about the ride to begin with as they had to seek a revision to their overall siteplan with the county at the last minute in order to gain permission to build the ride.

^I have no idea. I only started going to Geauga Lake when Cedar Fair took over.

I rode X-Flight I can't recall how many times it's debut season and I never saw an onride photo booth. Villain and Batman Knight Flight had one, but not X-Flight. We wondered why.

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Coasterbuzzer said:
^I have no idea. I only started going to Geauga Lake when Cedar Fair took over.

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Sorry bout your luck.

Chuck, who never had the bad experiences everyone else seemed to have at the ULITMATE ohio themepark SFWOA. It's in some sort of limbo right now IMHO.

If I was closer I would have probably bought a season pass for GL by now, I think it looks like a great park...

X-Flight never had an on-ride photo.

This is a picture of X-Flight's opening season
http://p2.rcdb.com/picmax/six-flags-ohio/x-flight10.jpg

do you see an on-ride camera? no? didn't think so

Edit: Simple spelling error. haha *** Edited 11/3/2006 10:28:56 PM UTC by crombiedude11***

X Flight never had an on-ride photo. The only rides that had on-ride photos over the years were:

Mind Eraser/Head Spin
Serial Thriller/Thunderhawk
Batman Knight Flight/Dominator
Villain
Raging Wolf Bobs had one at one time.

Something tells me Big Dipper had one but I can't confirm that.

Thunderhawk's is now on Pepsi Plunge.

X Factor

Big Dipper did have one for a while, you can see where the post still stands at the bottom of the first drop on the left side:
http://www.coasterbuzz.com/rollercoasterphoto.htm?i=1013

X-Flight did originally call for an on-ride photo to be installed near the loop somewhere, but Six Flags opted not to build it after all (Probably because of how busy they were trying to integrate Sea World). A keen eye can even spot the electrical conduit sticking up out of the ground under the loop, and then reemerging on the other side of the fence near the X-Flight arch.

^Uh huh.

One can easily spot the location where Batwing's camera was at as well.

Looking at the pic I noticed the different path system SF used for the ride to connect station #2 to the main midway...does X-Flight have a similar crossover<more like crossunder> from the main queue to access station #2 similar to Batwing's setup?

If I remember correctly, the lines are almost the same at both parks, but Batwing's line goes below grade to get under the track to get to the station. X-Flight does not go below grade, but still goes under the track.

And BTW, I didn't mean to imply that you could see the conduit in the photo of X-Flight linked above, which obviously you cannot.

*** Edited 11/4/2006 8:35:26 PM UTC by Fun***

The lines for X-Flight are as follows:

Queue: Dosnt really start till you get past the horseshoe element. There are 3 lines of queue gates before you reach the staircase to the station.

Exit: Goes between the two stations more on the side of the main station at about the 3rd car from the back of the train. down a flight of stairs, then a left under the track segment right before the station as you can see the footer directly on your right.

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HeyIsntThatRob? said:
Rob W.:"I'm not going on Steel Venom 1, it isn't safe!"

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Nice quote from rct! ha. Personally I don't see them tearing a unique part of Geauga Lake out, it is one of their coasters that make them unique...although SV may have seen its last days or some really costly repairs, which may be why as to no news for the 2007 season besides deconstruction. I could care whather SV stays or goes.... as long as they have a plan to replace all this space with rides.

With the problems what Son of Beast had this season, especially with that incident over the summer.

Could PKI land X-Flight and remove SOB? Or even more extreme, could PKI land Dominator if CF where to pull the plug on Geauga Lake? *** Edited 11/5/2006 3:39:07 PM UTC by SkyRider7***

While the doom-and-gloom rumors coming from the 'Lake will be around for a long time, don't look for anything that major this soon. And for all this "XFlight is going to KI" talk, with CF promising to honor the plans for the parks that Paramount made, could this move be thrown together so quickly?

They scrapped the move of FOF very quickly... Hell, PKD's had already been partially dismantled, they halted it, put it back together and got it running before end of season.

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SkyRider7 said:
Could PKI land X-Flight and remove SOB? Or even more extreme, could PKI land Dominator if CF where to pull the plug on Geauga Lake? *** Edited 11/5/2006 3:39:07 PM UTC by SkyRider7***

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It has been CONFIRMED by Maureen Kaiser that Son of Beast will INDEED return to service in the 2007 season. No question about it.

Moving Dominator would be a very stupid move and would require alot of work at both Geagua Lake and Kings Island. But if they were to actually shut down Geauga Lake, I could see it being moved to PKI.

If X-Flight was moved to Kings Island, it would probably be placed behind Flight of Fear near the old Helipad. The land back there is mostly flat and it would be a good location if they were to theme it to somthing Sci-Fi as it would fit into the theming of Flight of Fear.

I have heard though that X-Flight is being dismantled. If they were actually installing a ORP camera they wouldnt have much work to do at all on the electrical side and they would not need to tear up ride electrics. Most ORP cameras have 3-5 cameras and two flash bulbs on a single post (Look at Xcelerator's here http://hoys.extremepki.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-138)

IMO, X-Flight is moving somewhere.

The station setup for both X-Flight & Batwing are the same with the exit ramp/staircase being in the middle of the platform/about the middle of the train.

The only difference appears to be the paths leading to the ride,X-Flight's path from the surrounding midway appears to begin right about where the helix exit is & then follows along the brake run to the switchbacks,which I assume are in between station one & right under the horseshoe.

Batwing's path begins to the left of the "S" logo in front of superman & just goes straight on back all the way to the station turn around & turns right leading to the switchbacks in between the station & horseshoe.

Because Batwing sits lower to the ground at the helix exit/brakerun flip than X-Flight a path going under that section isn't possible,still I'd like to see a second path built going from the right of the "S" logo in front of superman & around more like X-Flight's setup & while they're at it they should add a switchback on the center of each station platform thus eliminating the need to hold the line at the top of the steps.