Representative for mystery seller says Big Dipper will be demolished without a buyer

Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:57 AM | Contributed by Jeff

Over the last two weeks, the anonymous owner of Geauga Lake's Big Dipper tried selling the coaster on eBay. Through that process, we've learned a little more about the man, the anger directed at him, and his history with The Big Dipper. A representative says the ride will be demolished September 15 without a buyer.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:46 AM
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Jerry said:


Butt ... Butt.... Ocean Motion is supposed to be a family friendly ride ... Butt....

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 12:23 PM
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That's slanderous misrepresentation of my derogatory commentary on boobs.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 1:37 PM
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Perhaps you could buy Screechin Eagle and hold it ransom, then have it torn down to punish me ;).


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Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:41 PM

I have never ridden screeching eagle, but it sounds like alot of fun. I can't say that there hasn't been a whimper about it. I seem to recall some pretty nasty words for an rv dealer. As far as the owner of the dipper not being known, Suposedly there was a offer on the land if the dipper was there. Does anybody know who that was? When asked, I was told there was a confidentiality agreement. Why is it ok for that group to stay out of the public? There are so many auctions that are won by anonomous bidders. The fact here is that the ride is available. Everyone says he wants this much that is too much, have you made an offer on the ride? Has anyone made an offer? Come on, when you go to buy a car, do you go right at sticker price? Nope you make an offer and have open communications and come to an agreeable price. I know for a fact that nobody on here has come with an offer for the ride.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:02 PM
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Anonomous bidders doesn't equal Anonomous Owner.


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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:10 PM

Why not? I have never heard " and the person who won the honus wagner card 3 years ago was@#$#@#" And if they put it back up for auction, they are still anonamous. Things are sold and bought every day without the general public knowing who ownes it.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:16 PM
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You're comparing apples to oranges. This isn't some auction for some piece of item of value. This is basically a very expensive piece of business equipment.

As to why anonomous buyers are different-if you're in a highly competitive business, you don't want other people to know what you're doing. However, if you're selling something, people aren't just going to jump to buy it if they don't know who they're getting it from.

Not that I think the seller being anonomous matters one bit, no one else stepped in to purchase the ride when it was offered by a known entity.

The fact here is that the ride is available.

And surprisingly, that hasn't changed since Cedar Fair put the ride up for sale, it has continuously been available. The problem is, no one is interested enough to actually put money up to move it and operate it. That hasn't changed. That it sold to someone who doesn't seem to know what they're doing doesn't mean it ever wasn't 'available'.

I don't care how much he sales it for, I don't care that he is anonomouse. Nobody wants the ride, no one wanted the ride before he purchased it, no one wants it now that he's trying to sell it, and I still think it was a stupid decision to buy the ride only for it to sit there an extra few years giving some people false hope that it'd be moved.

He may have had the best laid plans in your and his view, but that he didn't seem to plan for the fact that the ride wouldn't sell tells me he didn't have the business sense to know not to get into this if he couldn't handle it by storing it when the time came for it to have to move.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:17 PM
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Tekwardo said:
Anonomous bidders doesn't equal Anonymous Seller.

Fixed that for you.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:20 PM
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Well, really, Owner and Seller. both are still different from each other and than an anonomous buyer :).


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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:31 PM

First of all, the purchase of the ride was a business move for a private plan. Again, the original plans fell through. I really don't want to go over that again. Second of all, if nobody cares about the ride, why the no less than 3 recent coasterbuzz topics about it? I don't understand how you can call any decision about this ride stupid. Plans fall through everyday and things don't go as planned. I had my concerns about all of this in the beginning and insted of making things up and spouting off about things I didn't know about. I got in contact with the person that bought it at auction and asked him my questions and offered my help in saving something I feel is worth saving.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:44 PM
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Burn it down.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:50 PM

Really? what would the be the point of that. If you don't like the ride, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to yours. However, quite a few people believe this ride is worth saving or there would not be any media coverage and pages of conversation about it.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:51 PM
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But that's why you plan for ANYTHING that could happen. The buyer had a plan, great. But he didn't have a backup (i.e. where to store the ride if the plan fell thru and he had to move it). That's was a stupid mistake.

I didn't say no one cared about the ride, I said nobody (as in, parks or other businesses who have the money to do so) wants or has the means to purchase the ride. It hasn't been 'saved', it's sat there for 3 years.

Plans fall thru. Okay, I get that. Which is why people have backup plans to at least deal with a situation. It seems like the only backup plan here was "We'll let it sit there till we have to do something with it" and that isn't such a good plan.

insted of making things up and spouting off about things I didn't know about.

First off, I don't appreciate the accusation that I'm making anything up. I'm not throwing out any facts, I'm stating opinions. I haven't 'made anything' up. It's obvious that there isn't some entity out there that is either willing or able to purchase the ride based on the fact that no one has. How that's me making stuff up, I dunno, but whatever.

As for 'spouting off things I didn't know about', It's kind of hard to get the full picture when someone chooses to be anonomous becasue they're afraid that the big, bad coaster entusiasts are going to come and pelt them with biscuits and gravy because of some stupid roller coaster. Yeah, it's a stupid roller coaster. All of them are. I enjoy them, but they're most certainly not important outside of providing entertainment.

Based on the facts that we do know, and based off of what this person has said themselves on ebay, and then based off the fact that they've apparently retained you, someone with absolutely no knowledge or experience in ride brokering, to take care of selling the ride, I am confident that with the information I have that this person made poor decisions.

Heck, I liked Big Dipper. I don't really care if it catches on fire tomorrow. My life didn't end when my favorite amusement park, one that I'd been to every year that I'd been alive, closed down, and the Big Dipper going the way of the dodo isn't going to impact me that much either.

I just find it hilarious that someone acts the way they do and then freaks out and runs to the paper to let them know that they're demolishing a roller coaster in response to some enthusiasts 'harsh words'. I'd love to know what enthusiasts threw out those harsh words, and how, because as far as we all knew, the owner/seller was anonomous.


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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:59 PM

@tekwardo. I was not refering to you with that statement. I am sorry if you took it that way. I was spealing in general. I was never hired by the owner. All I did was try to help the situation. All I had to do with it was to add another name and contact to help find the ride a new owner. Everyone says it is hard to buy something when you don't know who to talk to. The owner put my name and contact info out there to have another way for people to get in contact with him.

Are you trying to tell me that nobody in the enthusiast worl has spouted off things they had facts to back it up? C'mon now.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 4:01 PM

Also, btw. The owner did not run to the media about the demolition. They picked up the story from the Q+A section of the ebay listing.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 4:17 PM

If this is going to turn out to be a Cinderella story, the princess better hurry. The other shoe is getting ready to drop.


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Thursday, September 9, 2010 4:22 PM

I agree totally Ensign

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 4:33 PM
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ffej said:
However, quite a few people believe this ride is worth saving or there would not be any media coverage and pages of conversation about it.

I don't think media coverage of the news surrounding the sale of this coaster means that there are quite a few people who believe this ride is worth saving. I also don't think the numerous pages of conversation about the news means that, either.

From where I sit, the pages of conversation are merely a battle between you and others about whether the owner knew what he was doing. It has very little to do with a concern for the ride.


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Thursday, September 9, 2010 4:38 PM
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Stick a match in it, it's done!


Certain victory.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 4:39 PM

I am going to have to disagree with you here. First this is not a battle. I would think this would be classified as a discussion. Second, if people didn't care about the ride,Why would you care that somebody made a percieved bad decision? I don't believe the news spending valuable air time on something that people didn't care about it. if you don't care about it, that is fantastic, however some people do care.by the way I did not make any of these topics and I didn't post on this one until a few hours ago.

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