Representative for mystery seller says Big Dipper will be demolished without a buyer

Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:57 AM | Contributed by Jeff

Over the last two weeks, the anonymous owner of Geauga Lake's Big Dipper tried selling the coaster on eBay. Through that process, we've learned a little more about the man, the anger directed at him, and his history with The Big Dipper. A representative says the ride will be demolished September 15 without a buyer.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 9:54 PM

ffej said:
Ya know Jeff, I think we should sut down and have a nice conversation some day. How about a sleep over?

What are you, some kind of stalker freak? Do you like pancakes?

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:00 PM

Doesn't everyone like pancakes?

Last edited by sws, Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:01 PM
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Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:13 PM

Tekwardo said:
I'm a member of team Carrie.

Or Fahrenheit.

sws said:
I would be but I'm too much of a baby....

Just promise not to eat in public and I'll make an exception for ya.

;) :)

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:17 PM

[url][url]I'm just playing around Jeff. I joke, I joke, I keid, I kied!!! (eminem referance). All I am trying to do is give a different perspective. There is no ill will toward anybody.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:19 PM

I'm on Carrie...err, I'm behind Carrie...ummm...

Go Team Carrie! ;)

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:24 PM

Dude, don't give away the secret handshake... ;)

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:39 PM

Just promise not to eat in public and I'll make an exception for ya.

It could be worse.

OK, I'm done with all of the YouTube links.
"I've just been having me so much fun since I bought me one of those internet thingies down at Radio Shack last week."

Last edited by sws, Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:42 PM
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Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:53 PM

Can I come for a sleepover, ffej? Do you have a MySpace? Can I have your phone number?

This "mysterious" thread gets creepier with each new page.

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Friday, September 10, 2010 7:12 AM

See now we are making friends!!!lol

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Friday, September 10, 2010 10:41 AM

...so have we figured out who the owner is yet?

Who could possibly say, with any justification, that they have been ripped and ragged on continuosly since the closing of GL?

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Friday, September 10, 2010 12:11 PM

FLYINGSCOOTER said:
...so have we figured out who the owner is yet?

Who could possibly say, with any justification, that they have been ripped and ragged on continuosly since the closing of GL?

I"VE GOT IT!!! It's DICK KINZEL!!!! He must have been trying to make a quick buck. Put on your Tinfoil hats everyone!

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Friday, September 10, 2010 1:40 PM

OK ffej: I've been following this circus on here for several weeks now (as I practically grew up at Geauga Lake and loved the Big Dipper) - and through 3 separate threads you keep saying "He had a plan . . . He had a plan"! Yet you won't give any details of this so called plan, and get defensive whenever someone doesn't know your supposed "facts".

I'm sure there is infact plenty we don't know, but just from media reports, here are the "facts" that we do know:

-Mystery Buyer bought the Big Dipper for $5,000 through Apex Machinery Movers.
-Shortly thereafter, it was for sale for a price of $150,000 with the caveat that the buyer must use Apex to move it (at an additional outrageous cost).
-When no one wanted it (at least at his terms), it was listed for sale on several amusement sites over the next several years.
-Finally, it was put up for auction on eBay.

Please correct anything that I'm wrong about above - but what has he done that doesn't show he bought it simply thinking he could get it cheap, and turn it around for a huge profit? You have not once answered that question (unless I missed it - and if so I apologize).

I'm sure he did love the ride (just as thousands of others did), but all the evidence shows that his intension all along was simply to make a big profit. Back Fire!

So, the million dollar question is: If he truly did just want to save the ride, why did he not just donate it to any organization that had the means to move/restore/operate it???

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Friday, September 10, 2010 1:47 PM

And even if he did donate it, what organization has the means to move/restore/operate it, and is interested in buying? None. And apparently that hasn't changed in 3 years.

Were there organizations/businesses that wanted to? Likely. But apparently they didn't have the means.

Were there entities that had the means? Yeppers. But they didn't seem to want to.

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Friday, September 10, 2010 2:06 PM

Is it possible that first posts are finally increasing in quality? +1's all around!

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Friday, September 10, 2010 2:30 PM


Tekwardo said:


Were there organizations/businesses that wanted to? Likely. But apparently they didn't have the means.

Or were there entities that did have the means, but weren't willing to pay the asking price + Apex's high moving costs?

Perhaps if he did try to donate it from the beginning, someone would have been willing to work with him.

Then again . . . Maybe not!

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Friday, September 10, 2010 2:36 PM

And if indeed there was an entitiy interested, if they couldn't tack on an extra $5k and buy/move it when it first came up, then they probably would have then.

I mean, if the demand for this ride was so great, someone with enough money and ability to purchase it would have. Instead, someone purchased it in hopes that plans would work out, then when they didn't, they couldn't sell it to anyone.

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Friday, September 10, 2010 2:39 PM

Ace museum or even knobles?

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Friday, September 10, 2010 2:48 PM

Who is the troll?How is discussing the topic being a troll? Mabe you should learn the term there Jerry. I will retort here with a couple questions. Who was the group that put in a bid for the property than pulled it back when dipper was not there? I had asked this several times with no answer. How many business plans do you think come up and do not work out and people lose money.? That is all I am saying. Quite a few people think there is a conspiracy going on here, there is not. As my friend Jerry mentioned something about tinfoil hats? I didn't come over here to do anything negative. Just offer another side of the story that I know about.Again was everyothing done right ? No. but it was not all bad like some think.

Jeff, you keep it up and the sleepover will be off!! lol

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Friday, September 10, 2010 2:48 PM

Another post came while I was typing. I absolutely love the ace museum idea!!

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Friday, September 10, 2010 2:50 PM

Tek: I thought of that as soon as I hit submit. I have no idea what kind of demand (if any) there was at the time of the auction or since. Apparently none.

What I am interested in is: If the buyer's grand plan was "saving" the ride out of love as ffej states - why has he seemingly only to tried to sell it at a huge profit since the beginning?

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